Anyone here trying to buy Obamacare?

[wa3zrm]

Civil war: MSNBC attacks Bill Clinton over Obamacare comments
Hot Air ^ |

It’s ugly behind the scenes, and it’s ugly on the air. Krystal Ball:
“If there was a way under the law that you could make this work so that people could keep the thing that they wanted to keep, he would do it,” she continued. “The problem is this whole law was designed to have as little disruption as possible. This was the minimum amount of disruption possible…Bill Clinton is basically engaging in magical thinking here,” Ball declared. “That you can just snap your fingers and say, ‘Go ahead guys. Keep what you got.’ It doesn’t work that way.”
Ah, but that’s what people were repeatedly promised — and Senate Democrats unanimously refused to address this inevitable problem in 2010. Lots and lots of “magical thinking” going on these days, it would seem. Ed Schultz got in on the Bubba-bashing action, too. Delicious:
Noah Rothman @NoahCRothman
Now Ed going after Clinton. Also, civil war.
4:03 PM - 13 Nov 2013
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Clinton’s ‘permission slip’ interview led to the dam bursting. Screaming about it may be cathartic for Big Ed, but it changes nothing. Rant away, bro.

[CoderGuy]

Don't bother, they're here.

[Premium Parrots]

[wa3zrm]

White House Officials Get Earful From Democrats On Obamacare

Washington (CNN) -- A private meeting on Capitol Hill with House Democrats and White House officials on Wednesday became heated when rank-and-file members expressed frustration about continued Obamacare problems, according to multiple sources in the room.
One congressional Democrat who attended the meeting said senior Obama administration officials Mike Hash and David Simas really "got hit" by House Democrats about everything from the troubled website to the broken presidential promise that people can keep the insurance plans they like.
The most pressing political challenge for House Democrats will come this Friday when they will have to vote on a House Republican plan by Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan that allows people to keep their policies if they want to.
Insurance companies have begun canceling certain individual plans mainly due to Obamacare, creating an unexpected hardship for many who could soon find themselves without coverage or wind up facing higher costs for new plans they may not want.
In California alone, more than 1 million people have received policy termination notices from several insurers because their plans do not meet minimum requirements under the Affordable Care Act, the state's insurance commissioner said this week. Insurers have, in a large number of cases, temporarily extended the time frame for ending those agreements.
Several lawmakers -- even liberals who adamantly support Obamacare -- stood and warned the officials that the White House must come up with a solution before the vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com .

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Under Health Care Act, Millions Eligible for Free Policies

Millions of people could qualify for federal subsidies that will pay the entire monthly cost of some health care plans being offered in the online marketplaces set up under President Obama’s health care law, a surprising figure that has not garnered much attention, ---snip-- Independence Blue Cross in Philadelphia has four plans that are free to some customers. But the company, along with other insurers, has been careful not to publicize its free coverage for fear of alienating customers who will need to pay more.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...

[wa3zrm]

CNN source: If White House has no solution by Friday, Dems may vote for “Keep Your Plan Act”
Hotair ^

Amazing stuff via Mediaite. The “Keep Your Plan Act” is Fred Upton’s bill, which Jay Carney spent a few minutes attacking at today’s press briefing because it would make canceled plans available to all consumers, not just the ones who’d been enrolled in those plans before. That would be a disaster for the insurance industry. Healthy people would flee the new, more expensive plans for the resurrected cheaper ones, leaving no one in the new risk pool except sick people with very expensive treatments. That means either heavy losses for insurers, steep premium hikes next year to make up the difference, or some sort of federal bailout (congrats, red-state Democrats!) — or maybe a little of all three. You’ll have the same problem, though, albeit to a lesser extent, even if Upton’s bill is amended so that it applies only to people who’d been enrolled in a particular plan before it was cancelled. You can’t run a two-tiered healthy/sick insurance system. If the risk pools aren’t merged, replete with higher rates for the former, you can’t pay for the latter.
I understand why the GOP would back Upton’s bill. It’s a slam dunk politically, grinding Obama’s face in the consequences of his lie. This is the Democrats’ mess; Reid and the Senate can/will kill the bill if they like. I can’t understand why House Democrats, aware of the adverse selection problem that’s lurking here — and the political humiliation for the White House — would sign on, unless they’ve already reached a point of such pure terror over the “if you like your plan” backlash that they’re willing to kneecap ObamaCare six weeks out of the gate. Did they … not understand that millions of people were going to face cancellations and higher premiums under the law’s redistributive scheme? Of course they did. Steny Hoyer, number two in the Democratic caucus admitted it on October 29th. Fast forward two weeks and here’s where Hoyer is now:

“I don’t know what I’m gonna do on the Upton bill,” the Maryland Democrat said at a Tuesday briefing with reporters when discussing legislation sponsored by Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton, R-Mich.
Hoyer noted that he was “inclined not to be for the Upton bill at this time,” but he emphasized that he was “not closed to the option,” and would “reserve judgment” until he had seen the legislative text, which is reportedly undergoing some tweaks.
“I agree that people who purchased their policies prior to [the law's enactment date] ought to be able to keep their policies,” he said.

If he agrees that they should be able to keep their policies, why did he vote for ObamaCare? The whole point of the law is that healthy middle-class people shouldn’t be allowed to keep policies that have relatively low premiums. We need to gouge those suckers with higher premiums for new “comprehensive” plans so that we can pay for the preexisting conditions of the sick. It’s like voting for immigration reform and then feigning surprise in five years when the newly “secure” border hasn’t halted illegal immigration. It’s not supposed to do that. That’s something you tell the hoi polloi in order to give Congress enough cover to vote for it.
The vote on Upton’s bill is set for Friday, which, per CNN’s source on the Hill, means the White House has 48 hours or so to come up with its own proposal for letting people keep their plans — adverse selection problem or not — before Democrats head for the lifeboats. Greg Sargent claims that the Democratic leadership is now warning the rank and file that rich liberal donors won’t look kindly at them if they abandon The One on his big “accomplishment.” I’ll leave you with this, just to show that the fear isn’t limited to Dems in red states. After a million cancellations, even DiFi’s nervous:
Feinstein: "I have decided to cosponsor Senator Mary Landrieu’s (D-La.) legislation: Keeping the Affordable Care Act Promise Act."

[Thunder_Snus]

Could we just cut our losses with this project already? It's getting more pitiful every day. The site doesn't work, promises have been broken, and signups are at a fraction of the expected. Can't there be another way? Couldnt we just take away the free cellphone people get while on welfare and instead give them health insurance in its place. Thus encouraging them to be employed. On top of that or instead of that couldn't the government just supplement health insurance where they cover a portion of your premiums with an existing policy that doesn't have to be cancelled because of this? Let's be honest...this health care is more expensive than what people already have....so if people have to pay for something like this if they don't already have their own insurance, then who is it helping?

[Burnsey]

Can we have a single-payer system now?

Expansion of Medicare for all.........perhaps..?

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P.S. I should note that I have not been personally affected by this. But I've long held the belief that a single payer system is the only true way to reform health care in our country.

One side of political duality does not like this^^^^ but I do agree.

[Crow]

Can we have a single-payer system now?

Expansion of Medicare for all.........perhaps..?

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P.S. I should note that I have not been personally affected by this. But I've long held the belief that a single payer system is the only true way to reform health care in our country.

[wa3zrm]

Time to Start Considering Obamacare's Worst Case Scenarios

The question that many are asking is: How bad can this really get?
The answer is...worse. A lot worse.
Over the weekend, several reports suggested that, despite continued assurances that Healthcare.gov, the problem-plagued online insurance enrollment portal run by the federal government, would be running smoothly for most users by the end of the month, it increasingly looks likely that the deadline will be missed.

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...

[Thunder_Snus]

How about Spanish? Seriously. There's 435 million native Spanish speakers in this world (38.3 million in the US alone), but only 90 million native German speakers worldwide. And only 8.5 million native Swedish speakers. (Note: all numbers are from Wikipedia, so they may not be exactly accurate.)

I have just never had an interest in spanish or even portuguese. In any far fetched idea i have of ever living abroad i would much rather live somewhere like a nordic country or the netherlands compared to a spanish speaking country.

[wa3zrm]

CBS: Just 50,000 Have Enrolled Through the Federal Exchange ( Note: 3.5M+ have lost insurance! )

CBS and the Wall Street Journal report that roughly 50,000 have signed up using the federal exchange which covers enrollment in 36 states. That's in addition to the 49,100 which Reuters reports have signed up in 12 states with their own individual exchange websites.
The official numbers for the federal site will be released sometime this week by the Department of Health and Human Services. If the new estimates are accurate, the numbers reported by CBS, the WSJ and Reuters demonstrate that the administration is far behind expected enrollment numbers.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...

[trebli]

I'm currently finishing up a semester of German which I have grasped pretty well but am considering stopping to pursue Swedish or Dutch or something else in the Germanic family.

How about Spanish? Seriously. There's 435 million native Spanish speakers in this world (38.3 million in the US alone), but only 90 million native German speakers worldwide. And only 8.5 million native Swedish speakers. (Note: all numbers are from Wikipedia, so they may not be exactly accurate.)

[truthwolf1]

Pro Choice and Planned Parenthood clinics thin out the hood.

[wa3zrm]

Teenage pregnancy is at an all-time low.”

That's because Obama is paying for all the abortions!