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CNN Poll: Heath care law support drops to all-time low

Washington (CNN) – Support for the country's new health care law has dropped to a record low, according to a new national poll.

And a CNN/ORC International survey released Monday also indicates that most Americans predict that the Affordable Care Act will actually result in higher prices for their own medical care.

Only 35% of those questioned in the poll say they support the health care law, a 5-point drop in less than a month. Sixty-two percent say they oppose the law, up four points from November.

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I nervously check my mail daily, hoping that my plan isn't cancelled because it doesn't cover me for children that I don't have...or TseTse fly bites, or gender re-assignment, or.....

I'm the caregiver for several of my elderly relatives. That is exactly what I am going through! I know lots of people that have been canceled. Never in my wildest imagination did I think our government would do something like this to the people. This is FAR FROM OVER! Wait 'till January.

[Andy105]

If they can't deny coverage for pre-existing conditions now, just sign up if you're on the way to the hospital. I looked into Obamacare rates in IL, and it will cost me more money, for less coverage with a deductible that's quadrupled, over the plan that I pay for now. I nervously check my mail daily, hoping that my plan isn't cancelled because it doesn't cover me for children that I don't have...or TseTse fly bites, or gender re-assignment, or.....

[Thunder_Snus]

Time to call it a loss and move on. Noone wanted this and now that everyone needs it...noone can get it. Let's let this die so it can be printed as fun tourist information fact about the USA history in the year 2500.

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Doctors boycotting California's Obamacare exchange

An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.

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If a large number of doctors either balk at participating in the exchange or retire, the state’s medical system could be overwhelmed.
No one is more aware of this than Alex Briscoe, health director for Alameda County Health Care Services Agency, which includes Oakland.
“Enrollment doesn’t mean access, because there aren’t enough doctors to take the low rates of Medicaid,” he said. “There aren’t enough primary care physicians, period.”
Briscoe hopes his eight community health centers can handle the 200,000 uninsured individuals he said reside in his county, but he warned that “there is a doctor shortage. It is going to get worse as more people enter the market.”

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[trebli]

I don't think many people realize that... I want to keep this thread alive through January... that's when it is really going to be interesting. People without health insurance trying to see doctor's that don't know what the hell is going on themselves. I have about half dozen close friends that are doctor's... they have no idea what is going on! What do you think is going to happen in January?

I'm planning to avoid Obamacare this coming year and go without insurance. I seem to be in pretty good health anyway. I think it would cost less to just pay the $95 penalty.

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Is the President Dishonest Or Ignorant? (How about both?)
Townhall.com ^ |

In September, White House Spokesmodel Jay Carney was asked about the mounting stories of companies cutting employees and hours to get under the arbitrary magic numbers created for Obamacare’s many mandates. In typical progressive fashion, Carney dismissed reality and substituted his own. “There’s a difference between anecdotes and data,” he said.
He’s right, of course. And he should know … his boss has governed by anecdote, not data, not facts, since he took office.
Putting Obamacare aside for the moment, the most egregious example in the history of the United States of the bluster of anecdotes over reality came in the president’s first year.
After passage of the trillion-dollar taxpayer payoff to Democrat donors knows as the “stimulus,” the economy only worsened. The debt skyrocketed, economic growth flat lined, and unemployment ballooned. After wasting the GDP of many small nations and having nothing to show for it, the president glibly joked, “Shovel ready was not as shovel ready as we expected.”
That’s the kind of “humor” you can only attempt when you spend someone else’s money.
But after taking one-third of the annual US budget and setting it on fire, the White House needed some unit of measure to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. Enter “saved or created.”
Until the “saved or created” yardstick was manufactured at the White House’s unicorn dream factory, it had never been used before. Data, to that point, was always factual and quantifiable. No more.
The Obama administration, having nothing to show for the largest single check the government ever wrote, scrapped every unit of measure humans had used to that point and went hypothetical. They created the unprovable “saved or created” measure for jobs. It was genius. Diabolical, a lie and corrupt, but genius.
Not only was it impossible to prove any job had been “saved” by the stimulus, it was impossible to prove they hadn’t. It was a hypothetical abstract about an alternate future that could never be. You can’t argue with that. Well, you could argue with that if we had an honest press that didn’t simply parrot White House talking points, but we don't.
They’d pulled off what may well have been the greatest hoax in the history of statistics – hell, in the history of math. Until Obamacare, that is.
On Tuesday, the White House dusted off the old choir risers, loaded them up with human puppets lined up like trained seals waiting for a fish, and got them to clap on command for Obamacare. Who were these human puppets? Obamacare “success stories” – more accurately known as anecdotes.
In his speech, the president pulled five first names from his heavily filtered mailbag and highlighted them as though they were the norm. They were Monica, Sam, Julia, Justine and Joann (apparently his staff drew heavily from the “J” section of the bag). These five had their sad tales of woe -- true or not because you have only his word on it (the White House won’t release their names or any information about them), and his word has proven to be quite elastic of late – paraded about as though they were proof Obamacare is a success. That’s like the tobacco industry bringing out five 90-year-old life-long smokers and declaring they prove smoking doesn’t cause cancer.
This game of “Victims Of Society Monty” the White House is forcing Americans to play is as transparent a fraud as the street game with cards.
“After just the first month, despite all the problems in the rollout, about half-a-million people across the country are poised to gain health care coverage through marketplaces and Medicaid beginning on January 1st — some for the very first time,” the president said. Good for them. Unfortunately almost 6 million other Americans have lost their health insurance because of the same law – most of them for the “very first time” too. But they don’t count.
The White House wants people to focus on only one side of the scale. Doing that means it’s always in balance. But with the ratio being 500,000 to 6,000,000, the scale clearly is not in balance.
That obvious lie can be explained only by ignorance on behalf of the president – the defense he’s claimed on Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal, the NSA scandal, the healthcare.gov website failure – or a lack of concern for the truth or for the people he was elected to serve.
Ignorance has been bliss in this administration, but it doesn’t matter which reason the president uses to justify his lies to himself. “We’re not repealing it as long as I am president,” he said Tuesday. That shows an indifference to the real harm he is doing to millions, and soon to be ten of millions next year in the employer-provided market, on the level of any of history’s most despised tyrants.
Whether the president is dishonest, ignorant or a combination of both, he isn’t interested in reality. He has an agenda, and that agenda will march “forward” no matter how many people it hurts, how much it costs or how high a percentage of Americans oppose it or want it repealed and replaced.
So, it’s no surprise Barack Obama was “too busy” to take a half-hour helicopter flight to mark the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg Address but was able to fly to California for two days of fundraising and campaigning a week later. Even his handlers didn’t want to face the Herculean task of having to explain how the President could go honor a speech predicated on the concept “that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth,” and come home to ignore the peoples’ clear wishes to save them from this unadulterated disaster.
The juxtaposition of Barack Obama’s actions with Abraham Lincoln’s words expose him not as a great statesman and leader, but as a Rhett Butler who simply doesn’t.

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I don't think many people realize that... I want to keep this thread alive through January... that's when it is really going to be interesting. People without health insurance trying to see doctor's that don't know what the hell is going on themselves. I have about half dozen close friends that are doctor's... they have no idea what is going on! What do you think is going to happen in January?

I don't work in health insurance but i speak to a few people that do.....they have no idea what's going on

[wa3zrm]

A million people havent even signed up.

I don't think many people realize that... I want to keep this thread alive through January... that's when it is really going to be interesting. People without health insurance trying to see doctor's that don't know what the hell is going on themselves. I have about half dozen close friends that are doctor's... they have no idea what is going on! What do you think is going to happen in January?

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Obama Launches New Push To Sell Healthcare Law: ‘We’re Not Going Back’

“We’re not going back,” Obama said, flanked by people who the White House said are benefiting from the Affordable Care Act. Obama urged Americans to “refocus on what’s at stake.”
“What’s important for everybody to remember is not only that the law has helped millions of people,” Obama said, “but also that there are millions more that stand to be helped.”
“Do not let the initial problems with the website discourage you,” Obama implored, arguing that enrolling in coverage “will make all the difference".

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A million people havent even signed up.

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Obama Launches New Push To Sell Healthcare Law: ‘We’re Not Going Back’

“We’re not going back,” Obama said, flanked by people who the White House said are benefiting from the Affordable Care Act. Obama urged Americans to “refocus on what’s at stake.”
“What’s important for everybody to remember is not only that the law has helped millions of people,” Obama said, “but also that there are millions more that stand to be helped.”
“Do not let the initial problems with the website discourage you,” Obama implored, arguing that enrolling in coverage “will make all the difference".

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Obama: 'We're not going back'
The Hill ^ |

President Obama declared Tuesday that ObamaCare "is working" and that "we're not going back," as the White House looked to reboot its efforts to sell Americans on the president's signature healthcare law.
Obama said that "poor execution" of the rollout of HealthCare.gov had "clouded" the benefits of the bill, but said he would not allow technical glitches to undermine a program that was providing financial security for many Americans.
"If I've got to fight another three years to make sure this law works, that's what we'll do," Obama said.
"We're not repealing it as long as I'm president," he added. "I want everybody to be clear about that. We'll make it work."
The president, flanked by supporters who had benefited from aspects of the law, vacillated between a defense of his embattled program and a sales pitch intended to highlight some of ObamaCare's benefits for ordinary families.
Obama shared stories of individuals who had been helped by provisions of the law that allowed those under 26 to remain on their parents' health insurance, or receive free preventive care.
Acknowledging that the benefits of the program had "gotten lost a little bit," the president urged attendees to tell their friends and families about the law's success stories.
"It's working better now and it's just going to keep on working better over time," Obama said.
In his remarks, the president shied away from directly addressing more recent critiques of the ObamaCare website, including reports that the portal was continuing to provide insurers with error-riddled enrollment information. Obama did say that as new problems arose, the administration would address them.
"Whatever comes up, we're going to fix it," he said, adding later that the White House had " learned not to make wild promises about how perfectly smooth it's going to be."
The president also chastised critics of the law, saying Republicans "haven't presented an alternative" that would address flaws of the pre-ObamaCare system. He singled out Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), saying the Republican leader "refused to answer" when asked what his alternate proposal was.
"He just repeated 'repeal' over and over and over again," Obama said.
Earlier Tuesday, McConnell said the president's "campaign-style event won’t solve the myriad problems facing consumers under ObamaCare."
“The American people have been learning about the impact ObamaCare will have on individuals and families in the form of higher premiums, disrupted insurance, and lost jobs—more broken promises from the administration. And they’re becoming increasingly aware of the fact ObamaCare is broken beyond repair," McConnell said.
White House press secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday that the president's event was the first of many in a "renewed effort to refocus the public and the public's attention on the benefits of the law."
Carney said that in the coming days, the president and other White House officials would talk about existing benefits under ObamaCare, including insurance plans mandating free preventive care, ending discrimination based on pre-existing conditions, and the curbed growth in healthcare costs.
The White House spokesman said that sales effort would use "a number of different venues," including press events and Internet advertising campaigns.
"This is an opportunity now that the website is functioning effectively for the vast majority of users and we are seeing high volume and high volume being handled effectively by the website and people enrolling that it's an opportune time to talk about, again, the actual benefits that are provided by the law," Carney said.

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No security ever built into Obamacare site: Hacker

It could take a year to secure the risk of "high exposures" of personal information on the federal Obamacare online exchange, a cybersecurity expert told CNBC on Monday. "When you develop a website, you develop it with security in mind. And it doesn't appear to have happened this time," said David Kennedy, a so-called "white hat" hacker who tests online security by breaching websites. He testified on Capitol Hill about the flaws of HealthCare.gov last week.
"It's really hard to go back and fix the security around it because security wasn't built into it," said Kennedy, chief executive of TrustedSec. "We're talking multiple months to over a year to at least address some of the critical-to-high exposures on the website itself."
According to the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversaw the implementation of the website, the components used to build the site are compliant with standards set by Federal security authorities.

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