Heavy smoker needs help!

[dy2105]

Hey everyone! I'm a heavy smoker looking for some feedback. I want to quit smoking and I have tried the Camel snus introduced here in the U.S. Don't get me wrong, the stuff is ok but when I get a real craving I find myself shoving 3 portions into my mouth. Is this normal? Is there some snus that will satisfy me with just one portion? Also, I smoke right when I wake up. I heard that's a huge sign of bad addiction. I have an extremely addictive personality but I have to stop smoking. Help! lol :/

[bmwgsa]

I went thru the same thing with the Camel Snus. It has just enough kick to make you want a smoke right after you spit it out.

See if there's anywhere that sells "real" snus in your area and get a tin. You'll find there's a BIG difference between the Camel snus and the Sweedish Snus.

I was at a pack+ a day (more on the weekends), went to snus and cut off the smokes clean. Don't even want one

[bakerbarber]

More than one portion at a time is normal, especially for smokers.

I still have my morning cigarette most days a week.

Order some swedish snus online. There are a few sites, but most use The Norterner or Buysnus.com.

Try skruf stark, general sterk, Nick & Johnny, and N&J west. They all have higher nic content. They helped me make the transition from smoking.

Skruf stark comes in loose too, but the others are only portions.

They won't taste anything like camel snus though.

[toekuttr]

I've been Snusin now for about a month and am quite a heavy smoker too (was... I should say), but the strong Snus' have really taken care of any urges for cigarettes. Now I find myself actually preferring a nice fat pris instead.

One difference is though, I don't want to quit smoking and have been meaning to catch up on my smoking (but don't wanna spit out my Snus). :P

The ones I find that satisfy me the most are also the ones bakerbarber mentioned too, especially General Sterk and Skruf Los. Another one that really delivers big time for me is General Maxi, even just one can do the trick. The thing you have to get use to is the delay as Snus doesn't hit you instantly like a smoke, but delivers much more nic in the longrun. ymmv

[Grim]

I used American Dip to quite smoking for the most part.

I had no problem doing it because i was a dipper before a smoker.

I then had a very bad panic attack one day and the doc said it was the smoking and all the carbon monoxide that led to it.

I then started using dip but it was very harsh on the gums. plus i would still have an occasional cig. Not that it was a bad thing but i just didnt want to smoke and felt like i let myself down.

then i came accross triumph, buysnus and snuson.

Now i have no urge to smoke ever. If anything, when i see someone light up it makes me crave a pris or portion.

I use Skruf Stark and N&J West because i love the extra nic as I do not blow through snus as fast. I use Skruf Cran portions and Orig, usually the only portions i use, but i switch my los flavs up.

[dy2105]

Thanks so much for your feedback guys. I notice with the Camel snus regular it has sort of a sweet and salty taste. For those of you who have tried Camel snus, how does the swedish snuf differ in taste. I realize there are many, and I just placed an order for various kinds from northerner, but I guess I'm wondering whether the swedish snus tastes completely different from the Camel snus or not. I hope the flavor lasts longer than the Camel snus.

I have to admit I was shocked when I tried even the Camel snus. I didn't realize that nicotine transfer could taste so good haha. I almost feel like I'm cheating somehow. Anyways thanks for your time everyone. First time ever I think it would be possible for me to quit smoking. I'm excited!

[Grim]

Well if you can find triumph its a great american snus made by swedish match.

Swedish snus flavor keeps goin and goin and goin.

Ive had portions in for over 2 hours that still had alot of flavor.

Los always has flavor, even when i spit it out but how long it lasts depends on how long you can keep a pris in without mudslide.

If i were you just read through the snus & snus accesories section and make you a list and try em out.

Swedish snus crushes camel in flavor and quality. Camel Snus are basically mini portions. Swedish snus comes in Regular,Mini and Maxi. Maxi are basically a double portion in one pouch.

trust me, if you are use to camel the first real swedish snus you put in will suprise you. It may take you a lil while to get use to it.

You are in for one hell of an adventure my friend. One in which you will hope never ends. Its like being a small child waiting for santa and then when your package arrives you rip it open and hurry to pop in a portion or pris.

Keep us up to date on your experience and post reviews on what you try.

Anyone on here will gladly answer your questions.

[Starcadia]

I tried Camel after becoming familiar with the Swedish stuff. I was desperate because I'd forgotten my snus that day and didn't want to buy cigarettes. I survived, but Camel is awful in comparison. I only had a few of the portions before I chucked the whole tin. I got the "Spice", which was like...hmmm...hard to describe...peanut brittle tea, is what comes to mind after about two minutes. Nasty, in other words.

You'll find that there's more than enough nicotine in Swedish snus to satisfy your cravings. The rest is psychological. I personally still have a few cigarettes a day. In the car each way to work I'll have one, and often two after lunch. Because I can. None on weekends. Cigarettes have become a treat for me, rather than a necessity. I enjoy each and every one. But you have to go without them for a while.

Definitely get yourself some strong snus, both portion and loose. Skruf and N&J, particularly. General's okay but it doesn't kick my ass like those others.

[auggie]

There's been lots of discussion about this, but since you asked specifically, I'll just add that going from Camel snus to the Swedish tobacco is going to be a big adjustment - more nicotine, more saltiness, a burning in your throat from what juices you do produce (and starting out, you usually do salivate a bit), and a less pronounced, but richer and fuller flavor than Camel. The saltiness and the bitterness in your throat will go away after a few days, leaving you with just the great snus flavor.

And I didn't really believe everybody about the snus being strong enough to keep me off of cigarettes until I had some Nick and Johnny portions, which are very strong, very delicious. I had 3 or so over the course of a couple hours, then tried to light up a cigarette just out of habit... well, the cigarette almost made me throw up, there's just a LOT of nicotine that you can get out of some of these snuses!

[dy2105]

K just got my order. I just tried a General original portion and it was so gross I almost puked. The aftertaste tastes like vomit aftertaste. EWWWWW. Ok gonna try some of the flavored ones I got. I'll let you guys know if I find a good one haha. So far Camel snus > general

[bmwgsa]

I think we've all been thru that "first snus packet" feeling.
My first one I thought I was going to die (I had a General Wintergreen).

I'm still a noob and I'm adjusting to the snus only world, but a trick that helped me was that when I put the portion in my mouth, I chased it quickly with some water, coffee, coke - any liquid. Sometime I even swished it around a bit. That can get rid of some of the salty taste (or it did for me).

I went from Camel Snus to Sweedish, and now the Camel stuff really doesn't do much for me at all.

I liked the original and spice Camel Snus'es, but the Frost tasted like I was sucking on a Nutri-sweet packet, and that taste just didn't go away.

Give it another try, it takes some time; but it's well worth it in the long run.

[dy2105]

Yea, soo... I have offroad wintergreen and icy mint.. not terrible but not sweet like the Camels. Gotenborg's rape No2 is actually pretty decent. 1847 is ok but still too similar to the general stuff. Maybe I just need to get used to this taste. Either way, I'd prefer something more similar in taste to Camel snus (sweet) but with more nicotine. Any suggestions?

Oh and I got a can of the Elixyr power energy snus.. the one with taurine and caffeine added. Tastes just as bad but gives me a rush from hell haha.

Oh and swishing some sweet iced tea helped a bit so thanks for that suggestion.

[sagedil]

The snus generation gap....Those of us who tried Swedish snus long before Camel existed.

And this new generation who came to Swedish snus from Camel. I posted 9 months ago on a different forum my musings about how hard I thought it might be to make the switch after starting with that "not like real snus at all" Camel stuff.

All I can say, is Swedish is different. Different isn't necessarily bad, just different. If you let go of the concept that snus is supposed to be fake sweet, and try it just for what it really is, you might learn to like it.

My expectations, when I first tried snus were kinda low. The idea of putting tobacco in my mouth already kinda didn't sound good to me. So my first snus of ANY kind was Ettan. And it wasn't bad at al!!!! LOL, i already had read enough so expected salt, and I was surprised at how good it actually tasted. I had fallen in love with snus by my 3rd portion,

It was 3 months later before Camel hit Raleigh, I still like Spice in fact, but it is only an occasional desert snus for me

Keep trying the Swedish stuff. Go back to things you tried last week and didn't like, and try them again. At least give it time to grow on you. Worst case, there is still Camel.. and if Camel is what gives you the most pleasure, go for it. Snus is about using what you like in the end.

[bmwgsa]

I don't have any Offroad (I have some comming in), I've tried the 1847 - kinda liked it.

From a "tastyness" factor, I like General Wintergreen; Catch Dry Peppermint and Metropol. I'm sure there's more, but I'm still taste testing

Another trick I've used is to put in a portion and then suck on a breath mint. It's a weird taste combination, but it helped me.

I've gone over a week without a smoke or even a desire to smoke - like I've said, give it chance, it's worth it in the long run!!

[Starcadia]

dy - If you like the fake taste of Camel, you might like Probe.