NRA calls for armed police officers in every school

[tattooer601]

Ya know...
I just wanted to say this,my daughter graduated last year,from her first day in our public school system to her graduation there was armed police that patrolled the school all day.
Something else,the issues like tobacco in school....etc
The teachers take the student in the hall the officer took them to the office.

Honestly I assumed this "police guard" thing was a standard all schools did now.

[Crow]

If you were going to give that name to anything, it would be something that has full auto fire, or burst fire, but from my point of view it's a useless descriptor that's meant to influence emotion, and not describe an actual thing; a propaganda term.

I agree. The term "assault rifle" is propagandised. That term would be more appropriate for, like you said, full auto or burst fire (which are already illegal).

[Crow]

A "semi-automatic" is considered a firearm that will ready a bullet for fire as soon as you pull the first trigger.

As for HC magazines..... I don't have an issue with clips that can house slightly more ammo. But, I've seen drum magazines for rifles that can house 100+ bullets. I can see its uses in shooting sports, but I can also see it being used to cause a lot of damage.

I'm not completely convinced that we should ban HC mags at all, but I'm not completely opposed to the idea either.

Gun control is a tough one to tackle.

[Darwin]

A typical modern revolver is "semi-automatic" if the definition is one shot per trigger pull. Plus with speedloaders one can have a full cylinder in less than ten seconds and even faster with a little practice. With a full cylinder and four speedloaders one can get off 30 rounds in less than a minute. Not that hard to do. Any potential heros are going to have to be damn quick on their feet to try something between fast revolver reloads. Anti-gunners are being disingenuous, or simply clueless, if they think that 15 rounds are really scary but six rounds are not.

[lxskllr]

Banning high capacity magazines? Yes, I'm also open to that......to an extent. "High capacity" would need to be reasonably defined.

Banning "assault rifles" (semi-automatic rifles)? No, I just can't agree to that. Doing so would be unconstitutional, and an oxymoron (since you would leave semi-automatic handguns ["assault handguns"?] open).

These are the two I find most irritating. High capacity magazines? Cause it's such an egregious burden to swap out magazines. I guess the shooter shoots 10 times. and says "I guess that's it. I'm out of bullets". Fsckin' ridiculous...

There's no such thing as an assault rifle on the civilian market, and I'm not sure they exist at all. If you were going to give that name to anything, it would be something that has full auto fire, or burst fire, but from my point of view it's a useless descriptor that's meant to influence emotion, and not describe an actual thing; a propaganda term.

[Crow]

Strengthened background checks? Yes, I'm open to that.

Armed officers at schools? Yes, I'm open to that. But it should be up to the school district (and local government) to make that decision.

Banning high capacity magazines? Yes, I'm also open to that......to an extent. "High capacity" would need to be reasonably defined.

Banning "assault rifles" (semi-automatic rifles)? No, I just can't agree to that. Doing so would be unconstitutional, and an oxymoron (since you would leave semi-automatic handguns ["assault handguns"?] open).

Also, in my view, it would lead down a slippery slope. Let's say we ban semi-auto rifles... That still leaves semi-auto handguns open. Then, a tragedy occurs involving handguns, and we ban those as well... It still wouldn't stop a group of lunatics (say, a white supremacist group) from opening fire on a crowd (say, a congregation) using legal firearms..... Then what?

Yes, I believe we should control guns in a careful manner. We must do so without infringing on the Second Amendment.

[GoVegan]

Kids need to have their asses beaten. They get away with bullshit because it's allowed, and rewarded. Useless sacks of meat send their idiot offspring to the schools for babysitting, and the teachers aren't allowed to properly babysit. The kids have to be there by law, so everyone has to deal with them, but can't do what it takes to maintain control. Everyone loses.

I fully agree that teachers need more options to discipline students but packing heat shouldn't be one of them.

[lxskllr]

If a teacher feels like they are unsafe at work unless they are packing an Uzi, perhaps it is time for them to find another profession.

Kids need to have their asses beaten. They get away with bullshit because it's allowed, and rewarded. Useless sacks of meat send their idiot offspring to the schools for babysitting, and the teachers aren't allowed to properly babysit. The kids have to be there by law, so everyone has to deal with them, but can't do what it takes to maintain control. Everyone loses.

[GoVegan]

When you have a 280+ pound HS football player that tells you to go F yourself and then pulls a knife on you, you'll caw a different song!

If a teacher feels like they are unsafe at work unless they are packing an Uzi, perhaps it is time for them to find another profession.

[wa3zrm]

Yes, that's a great idea. I cant read the news for one day without seeing an article about a teacher molesting a student or being involved in some kind of scandal. I realize that 99% of the teachers out there are great people but I am concerned about the 1%. Schools should be about using you brains to solve problems. I would switch my kids school in 2 seconds if they started arming teachers or administrators.

When you have a 280+ pound HS football player that tells you to go F yourself and then pulls a knife on you, you'll caw a different song!

[Crow]

Edit:

That's not stopping me..!!

Keep it missionary.

[GoVegan]

Now for my 2 cents (or even less than that) on school safety. I would love to see Aikido being taught in public schools. It is a way to defend yourself using your body and your brain. It is also a good form of exercise physically, spiritually and mentally. Any idiot can pull a trigger. People need to learn how to use their minds to solve problems. Aikido wouldn't help a buch of first graders but I am sure it would be great at the jr. high and high school level. Pure speculation but maybe there would have been less damage if the teachers were also skilled in this martial art.

[GoVegan]

All im saying is .. It shouldn't be the Govt's responsibility to Educate the masses.

Name me one country without a public education system that is doing better than us right now. Here is a partial list for you: http://www.ehow.com/info_7929179_cou...education.html

The world is full of cheap labor. Our only edge in the world economy is education and technology. Sadly, we are now lagging in those areas. I believe what we need is an educational system that teaches kids the basics and prepares them to be successful in todays workforce. The schools are slowly catching on to this and charter schools are popping up everywhere in California.

[sirloot]

Yes! Another great idea loot. What our country needs are a lot more illiterate people so we can compete with the Chinese for labor.

All im saying is .. It shouldn't be the Govt's responsibility to Educate the masses. Very few want to take responsibility of their own anymore.

[GoVegan]

Yes! Another great idea loot. What our country needs are a lot more illiterate people so we can compete with the Chinese for labor.