Is trump a birther?

[Bigblue1]

Check this video out starting at 5:25 and then watch these cackling idiots get shredded by the Donald.

Great video clip day.

[sgreger1]

I actually have more respect for him after that interview, not that I didn't like him before. I think he's right, we should be running this thing more like a business since that would in theory solve all of our money problems, but run like a business is just a hop and a skip away from fascism, as always we must keep a balance. It is clear to me though that we need to start thinking about money more than we have in the past, we gotta start thinking about revenue. And he's right, **** the arab league, they should be doing their own dirty work.

[tom502]

I like Trump, and I think it odd Obama is keeping his birth certificate secret.

[Corvus]

I like Trump, and I think it odd Obama is keeping his birth certificate secret.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

[tom502]

They have never released Obama's Long Form actual Birth Certificate.
This is why the birther movement continues. That short form document may be all one needs to get a job, but it's not the same.

[Darwin]

I've heard that not releasing the certificate is a political ploy to keep the perfervid rhetorical pot boiling in fringe circles thus serving to discredit them. Seems to be working.

[tom502]

I believe some politicians are trying to make it a requirement to produce one's birth certificate to be on the ballot next election.

[LaZeR]

I don't really trust Trump and I think he's arrogant even more-so than Bush was accused of.

[Darwin]

Arrogant is much to mild a word to use for Trump. Megalomaniacal comes much closer.

[truthwolf1]

I like his stance on immigration and that he is a outsider yet insider of the Corporate elite.

but my guess is that he is not a chosen one. Watch who attends the upcoming Bilderberger meetings to know for sure.

[sgreger1]

1) I think it is weird that people want to see the birth certificate. We have not been sticklers on this before, so it is obviously a ploy to discredit Obama by making people think he is a foriegner or has something to hide. But all I am saying is that we didn't bother Bush or aynone else about this and suddenly we are bothering Obama about it, to be completely honest I think his race is what makes some people falsely assume he must have something to hide. I don't mean that everyone making these claims is racist, because they are not, but I think it odd that we never asked any of the white presidents for this before. (to my knowledge)

2) I think he does have something to hide. I don't think his birth certificate has anything to do with it, because forging a birth certificate is too easy, so even if he was born somewhere else there is no way to prove it. The president can probably obtain a pretty high quality forgery. So get over it.

3) Trump is right in one thing, Obama kind of came out of nowhere which is very odd. People remember him in his later years, but it seems like he left almost no footprint for the first nearly decade or so of his life. We know he lived in other countries for a VERY brief period (indonesia), so this of course adds to the confusion. But I do think it odd that a nobody senator from non-elitist parents managed to suddenly become popular out of nowhere and get backed by all of these huge players, when literally months prior to that OBama had no clout and no one was behind him. It is clear to me that he was put into power by someone who offered him a deal. Obama's a sucker for fame and attention, wouldn't surprise me if someone approached him and made a deal whereby he would get the attention and in return he would choose the guys "they" want for his cabinet.

4) Darwin is right, I think the reason why they leave this open ended is so that all the conspiracy nuts can frothe at the mouth and build a movement around this. Then eventually one day they will release the birth cert9ificate and make everyone look stupid, thereby discrediting nearly the entire right side of the country. I think their plan is excellent and is working perfectly. Advise those on the right to not fall for it.



All in all, it's a trivial issue, and getting a fake birth certificate would be too easy, therefore anything he does submit will be seen as a "fake", so no matter what this issue will never be closed regardless of what certificates the Obama admin does or does not produce. They likely see this as an absurd accusation that does not even warrant a response, and I would have to agree. If people were bitching about my birth certificate I would tell them to get lost. But I would also show the birth certificate.

I don't think there is any ACTUAL evidence that he wasn't born here or isn't fit to serve, from what I can gather is that he is a mutt like most Americans and just became popular after people with money got behind him. I don't think that is all that uncommon in politics.

[tom502]

The anti-birthers are always playing the race card, yet I think they do this because they deep down also wonder if he was really born in the US, but they feel they have to try and discredit those that wonder aloud. I do not believe race is an issue in this at all, because if Colin Powell was the president, no one would have ever questioned this. Obama does get questioned because he did grow up in Indonesia, has an African father, and his funny name doesn't help, and there are many that don't like his radical left wing upbringing(though he's obviously just another capitalist imperialist politicain now). And rumors that his grandmother said he was not born here(in the US). So, it's not his race, because if someone like Powell was president, or even, gag, Al Sharpton, no one would be questioning their residence of birth.

[snusjus]

Barack Obama was not born in the United States. You see, his parents knew he would become president one day, so they forged a birth certificate and sent false information to a Hawaiian newspaper to con everyone. It was all a conspiracy.

[Roo]

I wasn't born in the United States. I'm an American, always was and always will be, and I can't be president.

[AtreyuKun]

This country is full of ****ing idiots. Trump would make fine leader for us.