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 I jerk off all over the banjo after a good Bible session.Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......
 
 
 
  
 
 I've been wrong lots of times. Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.
 
 
 
 
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 or switch teams like govegan didGrant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......
 
 
 
  
 
 I've been wrong lots of times. Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.
 
 
 
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 I hear you, I take my stance because I think more people get married than they should, leading to the divorce rates we have and kids with messed up home lives. I got married because having a family and kids was important to me. If it is not important to another perhaps neither should marriage be. That is all I am saying. I don't see myself as discouraging another marriage but discouraging another divorce.Originally posted by AtreyuKun View PostNo I wasn't referring to you personally. Just those who think married men are knuckle dragging cavemen who jerk off to the bible and play the banjo. Same thing with some women who can't handle the fact that other women want kids.
 It just amazes me that it bothers so many people.
 
 Ken
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 I have been married twice, the first time not so happily the second time very much happy. The first time I was married in the catholic church, why? Not because I wanted to but because I was trying to make other people happy. The first wife translated the words "forever after" to mean OWNERSHIP and her happiness no matter how I felt about things. This actually lasted 30 years. Then one day I was tired of it all and walked out July 4th 2004.
 
 The second one has really been the happiest times I've ever had. We lived together for 3 years and then decided we did belong together so I got married again, in a church of my choice this time and also because my present wife didn't have a church wedding the first time around. Now I go to church on a regular basis with her. this works for us. It'll be 4 years next month and we just can't stand being apart.
 
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