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  • AtreyuKun
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1223

    #31
    Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
    The ONLY purpose a marriage serves is to ensure women can have an income without working. That worked fine up to the 20th century, because divorce was frowned upon. Now it's a farce with women as super citizens running the show. There's is no sharing of burden, only of profit with the male getting the short end every time. Marriage is an outdated concept, and needs to end. Anyone(male) who gets married is a fool AFAIC.
    Nothing against your opinion, but as a happily married man, I take offense to that. I'm certainly no fool. I married my best friend who shares EVERYTHING with me good and bad. Sorry if you don't like it.

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    • GoVegan
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 5603

      #32
      Originally posted by AtreyuKun View Post
      Nothing against your opinion, but as a happily married man, I take offense to that. I'm certainly no fool. I married my best friend who shares EVERYTHING with me good and bad. Sorry if you don't like it.
      I wouldn't take offense to his statement. My guess is he was in a very bitter marriage.

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      • EricHill78
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 4253

        #33
        I love my wife she i my best friend. Consider it old school but it was the best decision I ever made. My wedding was the last time I saw my father alive. He died a few months after. A lot of my family was there and it meant the world to me.

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        • WickedKitchen
          Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 2528

          #34
          Wow, Eric. My dad died four months after I got married. He made the trip to Ireland and had a fantastic time while he was there. Huh. I did see him alive after that, but only a handful of times.

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          • GoVegan
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 5603

            #35
            We will be married 17 years in June. I have to admit I love looking at the menu sometimes but will never place an order. We have had our ups and downs but I have never regretted my decision to get married. If anything, I found a woman who can put up with me and I am darn lucky!

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            • Premium Parrots
              Super Moderators
              • Feb 2008
              • 9761

              #36
              For valentines day I got this real nice card from my wife. On the cover it said all the lovie-dovie things and all about how great I am and how wonderfull her life is with me. But when I opened the card it simply said....."Just don't get any worse".

              yea thats true love










              bitch
              Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





              I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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              • beja
                Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 164

                #37
                While government acknowledgement of your relationship doesn't add anything to how you feel about each other, it does protect you assets in the event of sickness or death. Depending on what state you live in and what property you own, there could be many benefits. For instance, if one of you were to lose your job, rather than picking up a COBRA plan, you can cover each other. Also, upon death, tax-free inheritence could save you a small fortune. Hopefully, none of that will happen for a long long time. But you never know.

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                • deadohsky
                  Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 625

                  #38
                  Damn, thanks for all the replies lol. Exactly what i was looking for; a nice spectrum of experiences and opinions.

                  First let me clarify: I realize marriage isn't actually a christian institution. Being brought up the way i was, i have a very hard time separating the two. I have to disagree that marriage is natural for humans nor is monogamy for that matter in my opinion. I think the genetic coding our ancient ancestors had to have as many mates and offspring as possible is still there. When you get down to it, we are animals and have a natural instinct to procreate.

                  We have yet to actually have an in depth discussion about it. Last night we talked more about it than we have previously, hence the thread. She didn't get too much into her views on why she wants to get married. Pretty much all she said in regard to that was a social stigma of an unwed couple being a non-committed couple. She also didn't really oppose any of my feelings on it, agreed with me on most points.

                  She is the woman i'll be with the rest of my life, hope to be at least. If it doesn't work out at some point i don't see myself getting into another serious relationship, but who knows. I like to think that we will be together for the rest our lives, i can't imagine my life without her in it. Having said that, people do change over time. There certainly is a chance, no matter how remote it seems now, that somewhere down the road we won't share as many common interests as we do now. If that did ever come up, i wouldn't want to add stress to either of our lives by having to use lawyers to communicate and finalize things.

                  Is there anything that you can not do without having a marriage certificate? Couldn't i just have a will laid out to leave my belongings/ money to her? As far as i know (haven't really researched wills clearly) that's the point of a will. Why would she get taxed on money i leave to her? I already pay my taxes, can they really keep taxing my ass after i'm dead? If there's something i'm missing here, and i'm sure there is, forgive the ignorance.

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                  • GoVegan
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 5603

                    #39
                    The real benefit is being able to have sex whenever and wherever you want it. Just ask any married man.

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                    • Premium Parrots
                      Super Moderators
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 9761

                      #40
                      Originally posted by GoVegan View Post
                      The real benefit is being able to have sex whenever and wherever you want it. Just ask any married man.
                      or ask any man that owns a fleshlight
                      Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                      I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                      • Premium Parrots
                        Super Moderators
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 9761

                        #41
                        Originally posted by deadohsky View Post
                        Damn, thanks for all the replies lol. Exactly what i was looking for; a nice spectrum of experiences and opinions.

                        First let me clarify: I realize marriage isn't actually a christian institution. Being brought up the way i was, i have a very hard time separating the two. I have to disagree that marriage is natural for humans nor is monogamy for that matter in my opinion. I think the genetic coding our ancient ancestors had to have as many mates and offspring as possible is still there. When you get down to it, we are animals and have a natural instinct to procreate.

                        We have yet to actually have an in depth discussion about it. Last night we talked more about it than we have previously, hence the thread. She didn't get too much into her views on why she wants to get married. Pretty much all she said in regard to that was a social stigma of an unwed couple being a non-committed couple. She also didn't really oppose any of my feelings on it, agreed with me on most points.

                        She is the woman i'll be with the rest of my life, hope to be at least. If it doesn't work out at some point i don't see myself getting into another serious relationship, but who knows. I like to think that we will be together for the rest our lives, i can't imagine my life without her in it. Having said that, people do change over time. There certainly is a chance, no matter how remote it seems now, that somewhere down the road we won't share as many common interests as we do now. If that did ever come up, i wouldn't want to add stress to either of our lives by having to use lawyers to communicate and finalize things.

                        Is there anything that you can not do without having a marriage certificate? Couldn't i just have a will laid out to leave my belongings/ money to her? As far as i know (haven't really researched wills clearly) that's the point of a will. Why would she get taxed on money i leave to her? I already pay my taxes, can they really keep taxing my ass after i'm dead? If there's something i'm missing here, and i'm sure there is, forgive the ignorance.
                        apparently you didn't actually READ the terms of service when you joined SnusOn. When you joined ya'll agreed that upon your death all of your assets go to Premium Parrots..




                        my boys will be there shortly to collect.


                        Oh you say you aren't dead yet? Don't worry. They can help you out with that.


                        Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                        I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                        • precious007
                          Banned Users
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 5885

                          #42
                          apparently you didn't actually READ the terms of service when you joined SnusOn. When you joined ya'll agreed that upon your death all of your assets go to Premium Parrots..

                          rotflmao =))

                          Intresting stories :^)

                          Well it's pretty sad, the divorce is a pretty popular thing nowadays unlike the ol' days when probably even men would only have sex with a woman maybe two at most..... and that was their wife and maybe a neighbor ... I might be wrong.... but life was much simpler .... than having to go through attorneys, divorces and separate kids and all this crap .......

                          and it happens just because of the greed ... and money..... that's pretty much it ...

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                          • beja
                            Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 164

                            #43
                            Originally posted by deadohsky View Post
                            Is there anything that you can not do without having a marriage certificate? Couldn't i just have a will laid out to leave my belongings/ money to her? As far as i know (haven't really researched wills clearly) that's the point of a will. Why would she get taxed on money i leave to her? I already pay my taxes, can they really keep taxing my ass after i'm dead? If there's something i'm missing here, and i'm sure there is, forgive the ignorance.
                            It can vary state to state. However, in most places, if the governement can find a way to tax anything, they will. Usually, only children and spouses can inherit an estate tax free. Relatives such as grandparents, aunts, uncles, nieces and nephews get taxed, but at a lower rate than anyone who falls outside of this category. For instance, where I live, if you co-owned a house and one of you were to die, the other would owe taxes on the 50% of the house he/she inherited from the other, as there is no legal relationship between you. Also, I believe that 401K, IRAs, and other investments would be taxed, although you have designated her as a beneficiary. If you live in a state where common-law marriages are recognized the laws of course will be different. If you don't own much, then there's no real advantage financially. But if you plan on staying with her for a while, you might want to think about protecting your, uh, ASSets.

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                            • devilock76
                              Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1737

                              #44
                              I am late to this party but I will chime in. My first advice to anyone thinking about getting married is don't. Since they never seem to listen to that advice I tell them to elope as the second bit of advice.

                              OK but to be real, I am happily married, but if something was to happen I would most likely not remarry. See the thing is marriage is nothing more than a legal contract and most of that is mostly about the children. Hence marriage is about children. People like to get all sappy about it but the truth is it doesn't take a legal contract to protect "true love". That being said I have three kids, no need or desire for more, so I would not remarry if something happened. Granted things change but still.

                              Now of course I will say the other reason is it is about religion, as in people get married to not live in sin according to their religion. So in short marriage is about getting laid. Well as a pragmatist I would wager that hookers are cheaper than marriage. As a Christian I think Jesus got plenty of tail in his day, so I am good on that front as well.

                              As for whether you should marry someone, look at her, now imagine her 300 lbs, in dirty depends, screaming at you about the way you left your toothbrush in the bathroom, and tying in your toothbrush habits to the legitimacy of your birth, all the while she has 3,000,000 bottles of various beauty crap leaking all over the bath room so that you can't take a shower without being caught in a spill of bubbly whirl pool proportions that will make you smell of jasmine and shame. Put that image in your head, and if it does not make you reach for a ball peen hammer then you are probably meant to be!

                              So to summarize that unless you want kids, or have an amazing tolerance for torture, or your religion guides all you do and insists upon it, don't marry.

                              Ken

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                              • cobrageezer
                                Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 155

                                #45
                                Ok Guys I've got to put in my two cents. My wife and I will have been married for 34 years here in a couple of weeks. Has it always been a bed of roses, no. However I would not change a thing even if I could. We were both raised in very stable famlies, her parents were married 55+ years when her mother passed and mine 56 years. I am faaaarrr from the prefect husband, never unfaithful, but being male I can't help being a world class jerk sometimes. She's not June Cleaver either! We do our utmost to give each other 110% everyday, but no one is that good. Marriage is loving one another warts scabs and all. Just plan hard work. Only you can decide if your partner is worth the effort. I'm lucky mine is.

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