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  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
    • 10903

    #76
    Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
    No more gulf shrimp and now Alaskan seafood for a very long time.

    I hear you can season Tofurkey to taste like shrimp or anything else you desire...

    Maybe our Snuson vegans can share their favorite recipes.

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    • truthwolf1
      Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 2696

      #77
      Originally posted by snusgetter View Post
      I hear you can season Tofurkey to taste like shrimp or anything else you desire...

      Maybe our Snuson vegans can share their favorite recipes.
      You are actually on to something there. The new diet of the the future is going to be eco-friendly, soy/grain/earth friendly. They even have a vegan/atkins diet now. I actually enjoy some tofu and garden/mushroom patties but will definately miss the seafood once it's gone.

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      • justintempler
        Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 3090

        #78
        Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
        No more gulf shrimp and now Alaskan seafood for a very long time.
        It might just get a whole lot worse.

        http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/a...wn-in-progress

        Stage 1: The world watches, riveted, as Japan suffers a tragic and horrible earthquake and tsunami, but as horrifying as these are, they are localized phenomenon affecting a relatively small percentage of the country. The real trouble lurks within damaged nuclear plants, which are now ruined and will never again produce electricity for Japan, creating instant shortages that will take years to remedy. Worse, a dangerous plume of radioactivity is carried south by winds. Tokyo partially empties and shuts down for all practical purposes.

        Stage 2: The abrupt slow down of the world's third largest economy alters the smooth flow of cash around the globe, and even causes reversals of some other long-standing flows. Chaotic eddies emerge in a decades-old pattern of ever-increasing flows of money into and out of the money centers, and various carry-trade and other interest-rate-sensitive strategies blow up. Manufacturing in Japan screeches to a halt, disrupting just-in-time manufacturing strategies both internally and across the globe.

        Stage 3: In order to fund the rebuilding effort, Japan has to buy a lot of items from foreign suppliers at the same time that its exports plunge precipitously. At first Japan simply does not participate in US Treasury auctions, leading to a shortage of buyers. But eventually Japan has to sell some of its vast hoard of US bonds in order to pay for external items needed for its reconstruction. Further, insurance companies, huge holders of US bonds, face stiff liability claims in the wake of the worst natural disaster to hit a heavily industrialized center and are forced to redeem enormous amounts of Treasury paper. US Treasury yields begin to climb.

        Stage 4: Continuing unrest in the MENA region serves to keep oil elevated and local funding needs high, while Europe's weaker players (the PIIGS) continue to slip under the waves. Money continues to ebb away from the US Treasury market. Forced by circumstance, the Federal Reserve reverses its linguistic course and opens the monetary floodgates once again. There's nothing like a crisis to justify more money printing, especially to a one-trick pony (the Fed) that only knows how to stamp its hoof on the 'print' button.

        Stage 5: An increasingly chaotic monetary and fiscal situation spills over into the derivatives arena, creating a number of financial accidents. Stressed governments find themselves in more of an arguing mood than a pull-together-and-sing-Kumbaya mood, and agreements are hard to come by. Banks begin to fail again, global trade falls off, unrest continues to build, and then it happens - a currency crisis.

        Stage 6: Everything changes. Faster than you think

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        • sgreger1
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          • Mar 2009
          • 9451

          #79
          Originally posted by justintempler View Post
          It might just get a whole lot worse.

          http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/a...wn-in-progress
          Justin, that is an amazing analysis of the situation. This is my biggest fear out of this whole thing is that these 3 disasters in japan are going to REALLY screw up their economy, and japan being a big financial powerhouse like the US means that shutting down even partially will affect the whole world. We will feel this through increased prices in something, it will trickle down to american consumers, that i am sure of.

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          • GoVegan
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            • Oct 2009
            • 5603

            #80
            Originally posted by danielan View Post
            Thanks for that update. I am glad it is still in the works. If I remember right, the problem is that nuclear fusion requires superconducters but those superconducters have to be extremely cold to work properly. I do know that fusion has the potential to be much safer than fission and because you can reuse the same material it will generate much less waste. I am wondering if we will ever perfect fusion to the point where we can reuse the current nuclear waste we have already to create electricity. Also, hydrogen power still seems like it's a ways away but they do seem to be advancing in that technology. The scary thing about hydrogen is that I am sure the government will find a way to tax water if hydrogen power ever becomes feasible.

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            • sgreger1
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 9451

              #81
              Originally posted by danielan View Post
              Placing a nuclear facility or even modifying one is a highly regulated process. HIGHLY regulated. As in, multi-decade process. I don't have a link handy - but the process is public and strenuous.

              On the other hand - where exactly do you plan to find a location that has not had an earthquake in the past 1000 years or has no faults? Yet is close enough to provide power where it is needed?

              We're really good at measuring radiation. So, I don't know what the numbers look like in Tokyo - but I'd bet that it's barely above trace at this point (and will stay that way).

              I'm still happier living by a nuclear plant then a coal plant.
              1) I too would feel safer next to a nuke plant than a coal plant.
              2) I know it is highly regulated, but I am saying that we have to plan for the possibility of a disaster because they happen, you can't avoid building on fault lines, but you have to find a way to position them so that if they have minor leaks like this it doesn't endanger as many people as it has endangered. If moving the power plants too far away from the cities is too difficult, than they need to invent a way of sending electricity further and more efficiently.

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              • sgreger1
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 9451

                #82
                Originally posted by GoVegan
                Thanks for that update. I am glad it is still in the works. If I remember right, the problem is that nuclear fusion requires superconducters but those superconducters have to be extremely cold to work properly. I do know that fusion has the potential to be much safer than fission and because you can reuse the same material it will generate much less waste. I am wondering if we will ever perfect fusion to the point where we can reuse the current nuclear waste we have already to create electricity. Also, hydrogen power still seems like it's a ways away but they do seem to be advancing in that technology. The scary thing about hydrogen is that I am sure the government will find a way to tax water if hydrogen power ever becomes feasible.
                Bill Gates TED talk on his view on the future of energy. He is working with people developing a new kind of nuclear reactor that would be useless for nuclear weapons as it would run on nuclear material that is currently waste. We have enough waste for $100trillion worth of fuel in the US alone

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                • justintempler
                  Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 3090

                  #83
                  Originally posted by danielan View Post
                  Solar produced hydrogen (direct) seems like an interesting idea. It seems like something that could be done on a small scale too... http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Solar_Hydrogen
                  .
                  This is an in depth lecture about one of the links on your list. Daniel Nocera/MIT/Suncatalytix... (it's 90 minutes long)

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                  • sgreger1
                    Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    #84
                    Radiation has reached the west coast. Low level radiation cloud has reached california, officials say there are increased levels of radiation but that at this time it poses no health risk. I think I may look into getting some of these tablets, where can one go to purchase these?

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                    • precious007
                      Banned Users
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 5885

                      #85
                      Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                      Radiation has reached the west coast. Low level radiation cloud has reached california, officials say there are increased levels of radiation but that at this time it poses no health risk. I think I may look into getting some of these tablets, where can one go to purchase these?
                      I think pharmacies carry them ...

                      There's all sorts of other "anti-radiation" tablets and solutions you can ask for in pharmacies.

                      Is the level of toxicity that high in Cali ?

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                      • Premium Parrots
                        Super Moderators
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 9763

                        #86
                        If you are exposed to enough radiation to truely affect your thyroid gland then that would be the last of my worries. I'd be more worried about the other organs in my body including my skin.

                        Getting potassium iodide may help out your thyroid but what about the other parts?

                        Like my brother inlaw the chemist says. If you are that worried about it then get some lead panels and make yourself a lil get-a-way and seal yourself inside. You won't get radiation poisoning but it won't be long before you will surely surcumb to lead poisoning. I told him if the shit goes down I'll be ingesting lead a lot quicker....directly into my brain at an extreme velosity.
                        Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                        I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                        • sgreger1
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 9451

                          #87
                          Originally posted by precious007 View Post
                          I think pharmacies carry them ...

                          There's all sorts of other "anti-radiation" tablets and solutions you can ask for in pharmacies.

                          Is the level of toxicity that high in Cali ?

                          No it's nothing, they have "detected" radiation off the coast, but the equipment used to detect it is very sensitive and even a single radiated particle can set it off. The people running the hardware say that the radiation is from japan they think, but that it is trace ammounts, as in no different than any other day really. Just slightly above average, which usually means nothing.


                          Chernobyle radiation made it to CA in 10 days after the meltdown, but by the time it got here there was no actual risk because the radiation levels were barely even above background levels. Therefore, regardless of what happens with Japan it won't be getting to CA I don't think. Japan's reactor won't be making as big a mess as Chernobyl and chernobyl didn't hurt us so we should be fine.

                          I think I am going to stick with Daniellan's advice and not get any right now. Like PP says, if it gets to the point where I am taking potassium iodide for my thyroid, it's probably already too late for me...

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                          • Joe234
                            Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1948

                            #88
                            Radiation from Japan detected in Washington | The Columbian
                            http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/m...ed-washington/

                            Radiation from Japan detected in Washington

                            Levels millions of times below level of concern

                            By Washington State Department of Health
                            Monday, March 21, 2011

                            A Department of Health air monitor in Seattle has detected trace levels of radiation in connection with Japan’s nuclear emergency. The minuscule amounts of radioactive iodine are millions of times lower than levels that would be a health concern. Despite these very small amounts, the state’s overall background radiation levels haven’t risen.

                            The positive results are consistent with findings reported by federal and Canadian partners, and by independent researchers. As expected, because of the distance from Japan and air mixing, radiation reaching our state is so diluted there is no health risk here, making protective action unnecessary.

                            People in Washington shouldn’t take potassium iodide, also known as KI, because of what’s happened in Japan. Only people who work in or around nuclear power plants during an emergency, or who live near such a plant and can’t get away, should take KI.

                            The agency Newsroom page (http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan2011.htm) is updated daily to provide the latest information about radiation monitoring in Washington, including air monitoring data (http://www.doh.wa.gov/Topics/japan/monitor.htm).

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                            • Bigblue1
                              Banned Users
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3923

                              #89
                              Some interesting dispersion models in this article http://www.infowars.com/radionuclide...-are-harmless/

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                              • Bigblue1
                                Banned Users
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 3923

                                #90
                                While your fart analogy was quite poetic, it still has no bearing on the fact that Obama said no radiation would hit the us mainland, which by all accounts was a patently false statement. I keep thinking of Christie Todd Whitman.

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