Anti-Tea Party T-Shirts

[itchystiches]

Interesting fact there. Did you guys know income tax was only meant to be a temporary 'relief' taxation to help with the Civil War when it was first introduced? It only became permanent in 1900 odd when the Democrats passed the Wilson-Gorman tariff, which was the first peacetime income tax. Most feathers from the goose with the least amount of clucking.

If you think about it's actually slave labor - you're working 1 - 3 days for the state each week for no pay.

[raptor]

Capitalism is evil.

itchy, I want you to post on how much you hate socialist measures in the UK like the NHS.

[itchystiches]

[The NHS is a waste of money. If you're sick and don't have health insurance in the UK - you're still screwed. For example, the average wait time for heart surgary (CABG - Coronary Artery Bypass Graft) on the NHS is 57 days (2008/9). How long would it take to get that done in the US? Probably a couple of days at worst...

Having said that - not all socialised health care is bad. Take the Netherlands for example... But they have a seperation between payment and service provider. My honest opinion is whenever the state intervienes with something it generally works out badly for citizens - HMO's anyone?

[tom502]

National Socialism was the best socio-economic system.

[justintempler]

National Socialism was the best socio-economic system.

Yes tom, the only time it was ever applied was in Nazi Germany, that worked out real well didn't it?

[tom502]

Socio-economically, it did.

[itchystiches]

What gave you that idea? The only thing that allowed post-war Germany to survive was all the money the allies poured into her after the war was over... Economically speaking, she was ruined.

[tom502]

Pre-war. It flourished.

[itchystiches]

You know that Hitler hated tobacco right? I think we'd all have been on his hit list...

[tom502]

He may have, but he allowed people to use it. You see his Generals and lower ranks with cigs in many pics.

[itchystiches]

I'm not too sure about that - if he'd have had his way you might be classed as a Untermenschen!

Another bit of trivia for you - did you know Volkswagen was taken over by the British? I found that out when winding someone up on another forum - I said 'VW is great because it's British', ironically I was right in some respects.

[devilock76]

That was a revolution against a foreign King. Armed revolution against the current government is sedition and punishable by prison.
It is not patriotic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition


In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically, sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

Actually it was sedition and it was the crime our founding fathers were charged with. England was our sovereign and we were her colonies. Legally all Americans in the colonies were British Subjects and as thus subject to British Law.

Ken

[devilock76]

Pre-war. It flourished.

Possibly because they took and entire group of people for everything they had including their lives and then the resources of all of their neighbors when they invaded them.

Wave that Nazi fan boy flag though.

Ken

[Mazur]

I think spending a few years in Europe is enough to persuade anyone that the Tea Party is definitely a good idea.

Agree!

I have spent whole my life in Europe. Most of my life under communist government in Poland (under the authority of Soviet Union). Now under the authority of European Union. And I know that socialism is really sucks for all hard-working and honest people.

[lxskllr]

The problem is people are pure shite. If humans weren't such garbage, communism would be the best system. It can work well on very small systems, but even then you get stuck with the occasional douchebag. It's just easier to deal with when the system's small. The problem with the USA is we have a crappy blend of socialism, and capitalism, and no personal, or communal responsibility. The only allegiance people have is to the dollar, and profits make right.