Missile launch off the coast of California??

[lxskllr]

I think that's what they use to set chemtrails, but they usually do it at night. They tried a day mission as proof of concept to see if they could get it past the public, but I imagine they'll go back to night launches now ;^)

[sgreger1]

Yeah they know, sure of it. Maybe they didn't abort it, maybe it aborted someone else's

Im inclined to agree, but look at what a short distance it traveled. Even if you were already on the phone with someone, it seems it would take more than a few seconds to hash it out. And the US is always looking for a new place to put its tentacles, knowing us they would let it hit and then use it as a reason to attack. Plus, who really planned to get a missile here? I mean who would have the reason/balls/capability to launch something onto US shores? It hasnt been attempted in forever and was never actually really accomplished.


Its just interesting that the news chopper captured this. If this video showed up on ATS they would deny it, but they are being forced to address it because it came from a reputable source. I still think this had to be a naval exercise, no one here has missiles like that i would imagine and if it were from a different country they wouldnt have driven all the way to ****ing catalina island to launch it into the ocean. None of this makes any sense.

[sgreger1]

I think that's what they use to set chemtrails, but they usually do it at night. They tried a day mission as proof of concept to see if they could get it past the public, but I imagine they'll go back to night launches now ;^)

Lol, **** you lx.

[desirexe]

It was a drug smuggler boat shooting a rocket to divert attention.

[sgreger1]

It was a drug smuggler boat shooting a rocket to divert attention.

Hey you never know. Right now there are 5,000 armed illigals occupying our national parks for multi-million dollar grow operations, and they just announced today that illegals have claimed an island for themselves, and are using it as a staging area to sneak into san diego. Meanwhile one of the worlds largest marijuana busts just occured in a several mile tunnel that goes across the border for miles.

I mean at this point i can't put using ICBM's past them.

[CoderGuy]

Hey you never know. Right now there are 5,000 armed illigals occupying our national parks for multi-million dollar grow operations, and they just announced today that illegals have claimed an island for themselves, and are using it as a staging area to sneak into san diego. Meanwhile one of the worlds largest marijuana busts just occured in a several mile tunnel that goes across the border for miles.

I mean at this point i can't put using ICBM's past them.

I know the coke runners have mini-subs. Maybe they are expanding

[snusgetter]

More speculation?

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L.A.’s Mystery ‘Missile’ Is Probably a Jet

"That mystery “missile” launched last night off of the coast of Los Angeles? It probably wasn’t a missile at all, several leading defense analysts say.

The various arms of the U.S. military scrambled this morning to explain the creepy footage, snapped by a CBS news helicopter, of what appeared to be a missile flying into the air, not far from Los Angeles. U.S. Strategic Command, Northern Command, Air Force Space Command, Air Force Global Strike Command, the Navy and the Missile Defense Agency were all left struggling to give an answer for what appeared to be a rogue ICBM. But to GlobalSecurity.org director John Pike, there’s an easy explanation: “It is obviously an airplane.”

“The aircraft is flying towards the observer; the air over the Pacific is clear, so the contrail is visible all the way to the horizon. This creates the optical illusion of a rocket flying up, rather than the actual situation of an airplane flying horizontally,” Pike tells Danger Room. “The object generating the contrail is moving too slowly to be a rocket; the contrail is not expanding as the ‘rocket’ gains ‘altitude’ — which would be the case as the exhaust plume expanding into less dense high altitude air.”

MIT astronomer Jonathan McDowell tells New Scientist pretty much the same thing. Although he does note that the Navy owns a missile target and launch facility at nearby San Nicolas Island.

This wouldn’t be the first time a plane was mistaken for a missile. On New Year’s Eve, an aircraft was photographed above San Clemente, California, looking eerily missile-esque. In December, 2008, there was a similar case of mistaken identity when a plane flew near the coastal town of Carmel.

“The short explanation is that we don’t see a lot of jet contrails head-on, especially from the vantage point of a helicopter. So, it looks like a missile to everyone else,” writes Danger Room alum (and New America Foundation analyst) Jeffrey Lewis. “But it probably isn’t.”

He adds, “That would explain why no one else in L.A. saw a missile launch other than the helicopter crew — or, rather, why everyone else from every other angle saw a typical jet contrail — and why [America's missile-warning system] didn’t light up like a Christmas Tree.”"

[Darwin]

The launch itself was obviously not aborted but if it was terminated post launch it had to be by self-destruct. That means that either the warhead was a dummy or a conventional version. I doubt they would have self-destructed a nuke carrying missile, even if it could not explode, unless the programmed aim point was somewhere other than the open ocean. A test missile would have self-destruct or maybe even course change capability but a real nuclear SLBM probably would not for the obvious security reasons. As far as NORAD's actions on 9/11 go by the time the real situation became known it was basically too late to deploy the then much too thin assets we had available for intercept. Even if there had been enough time for intercepts having to shoot down four passenger airliners would have been about as big a publicity coup for Osama & company as what actually happened although obviously the loss of life would have been far lower. The scumbag jihadis did in fact "win" in the sense that we've been forced to spend hundreds of billions on security and lose hundreds of millions of man-hours because of that security.

One of the few security initiatives of the Obama admin. with which I have no complaints is the deployment of large numbers of aerial drones and special ops teams in the middle east to track down and assassinate Taliban and Al Queda leaders and functionaries. It stands as a stark and welcome change from the O-man's querulous hand-wringing and nervous-nelly treatment of jihadists already in custody. Makes sense to me. It's a lot harder for the marching moronic martyrs to lawyer up if they are each scattered in little bloody gobbets over several acres of the Hindu Kush.

[CoderGuy]

~
L.A.’s Mystery ‘Missile’ Is Probably a Jet

"That mystery “missile” launched last night off of the coast of Los Angeles? It probably wasn’t a missile at all, several leading defense analysts say.

The various arms of the U.S. military scrambled this morning to explain the creepy footage, snapped by a CBS news helicopter, of what appeared to be a missile flying into the air, not far from Los Angeles. U.S. Strategic Command, Northern Command, Air Force Space Command, Air Force Global Strike Command, the Navy and the Missile Defense Agency were all left struggling to give an answer for what appeared to be a rogue ICBM. But to GlobalSecurity.org director John Pike, there’s an easy explanation: “It is obviously an airplane.”

“The aircraft is flying towards the observer; the air over the Pacific is clear, so the contrail is visible all the way to the horizon. This creates the optical illusion of a rocket flying up, rather than the actual situation of an airplane flying horizontally,” Pike tells Danger Room. “The object generating the contrail is moving too slowly to be a rocket; the contrail is not expanding as the ‘rocket’ gains ‘altitude’ — which would be the case as the exhaust plume expanding into less dense high altitude air.”

MIT astronomer Jonathan McDowell tells New Scientist pretty much the same thing. Although he does note that the Navy owns a missile target and launch facility at nearby San Nicolas Island.

This wouldn’t be the first time a plane was mistaken for a missile. On New Year’s Eve, an aircraft was photographed above San Clemente, California, looking eerily missile-esque. In December, 2008, there was a similar case of mistaken identity when a plane flew near the coastal town of Carmel.

“The short explanation is that we don’t see a lot of jet contrails head-on, especially from the vantage point of a helicopter. So, it looks like a missile to everyone else,” writes Danger Room alum (and New America Foundation analyst) Jeffrey Lewis. “But it probably isn’t.”

He adds, “That would explain why no one else in L.A. saw a missile launch other than the helicopter crew — or, rather, why everyone else from every other angle saw a typical jet contrail — and why [America's missile-warning system] didn’t light up like a Christmas Tree.”"

Well that's good to know, at least we know what really happened and can stop speculating

[snusgetter]

Well that's good to know, at least we know what really happened and can stop speculating

NO NO Those are just informed guesses!!!

SPECULATE ON...........

[sgreger1]

I don't know, i would imagine the various agencies that track flights would have let everyone know a jet had filed a flight plan in that area immediately. And if it was the airforce, they would have known a plane was there. I stead everyone said they couldnt account for anyone being in the area.

Then theres. Missile test site down the street? I mean i dont know. Honestly i couldnt explain it away without it being either a jet or a military exercise. You cannot get a missile to the coast of CA, or more importantly a naval craft that would launch one here.

[sgreger1]

The launch itself was obviously not aborted but if it was terminated post launch it had to be by self-destruct. That means that either the warhead was a dummy or a conventional version. I doubt they would have self-destructed a nuke carrying missile, even if it could not explode, unless the programmed aim point was somewhere other than the open ocean. A test missile would have self-destruct or maybe even course change capability but a real nuclear SLBM probably would not for the obvious security reasons. As far as NORAD's actions on 9/11 go by the time the real situation became known it was basically too late to deploy the then much too thin assets we had available for intercept. Even if there had been enough time for intercepts having to shoot down four passenger airliners would have been about as big a publicity coup for Osama & company as what actually happened although obviously the loss of life would have been far lower. The scumbag jihadis did in fact "win" in the sense that we've been forced to spend hundreds of billions on security and lose hundreds of millions of man-hours because of that security.

One of the few security initiatives of the Obama admin. with which I have no complaints is the deployment of large numbers of aerial drones and special ops teams in the middle east to track down and assassinate Taliban and Al Queda leaders and functionaries. It stands as a stark and welcome change from the O-man's querulous hand-wringing and nervous-nelly treatment of jihadists already in custody. Makes sense to me. It's a lot harder for the marching moronic martyrs to lawyer up if they are each scattered in little bloody gobbets over several acres of the Hindu Kush.

Excuses for the governments blatant lack of readiness aside, i must agree with you on the drone thing. UAV's and special forces should have conducted this whole mission from the beginning. We were looking for a certain group and to take them out. We should have done it with precision, which is why they invented special forces and AC-130 spectre gunships. Give small teams of highly trained men unlimited budgets to go root them out, spend the rest of the money on intel to find the locations to send special ops. The middle east is poor, billions of dollars will buy a snitch in enough places to track them down.


Gotta give it to obama, he has not been as big of a pussy in the wars as i expected him to be. He's actually found the winning strategy, which is to kill them so you dont have to explain it in court later. Ironically this country is okay with killing terrorists and bombing villages, but not with waterboarding. Americans never fail to surprise me.

[Bigblue1]

President Merkin Muffley: How is it possible for this thing to be triggered automatically and at the same time impossible to untrigger?


Dr. Strangelove: Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy... the FEAR to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision-making process which rules out human meddling, the Doomsday machine is terrifying and simple to understand... and completely credible and convincing.

[WickedKitchen]

Its just interesting that the news chopper captured this. If this video showed up on ATS they would deny it, but they are being forced to address it because it came from a reputable source. I still think this had to be a naval exercise, no one here has missiles like that i would imagine and if it were from a different country they wouldnt have driven all the way to ****ing catalina island to launch it into the ocean. None of this makes any sense.

Maybe it went left when it was meant to go right...

[Frosted]

Is that Army left or civvie left - gets confusing.