Missile launch off the coast of California??

[Condor]

Its the heathen Chinese

[sgreger1]

It's hard to fool people these days as most games of bluff have been played out over history already.

It could have been an accident - I realise that there's a big procedure to go through before launching a missile but they might have gone through the whole procedure and somebody f***ed up, therefore leading to embarrassment and a cover up.

It is also clear that the missile was terminated or else it would have travelled a hell of a lot further.

I find the notion of it being an accident on the bottom of my list, right after the posibility of it being a nazi ufo lol. I mean possible, but i couldnt see how they would **** up like that.

Frosted, could you imagine being the private that accidentally launched an icbm because you messed up? Omfg it would be so brutal i dont wish that upon anyone.


But yah, clearly they had to have aborted it, it looked to be going pretty fast at a pretty high trajectory. The oceans big though, may have cut the boosters and just let it fall into the ocean. Man i just could not imagine being the one to mess something like that up. Imagine if it had hit something?

[Frosted]

They'd fire that private out of the same tube.

[CoderGuy]

I find the notion of it being an accident on the bottom of my list, right after the posibility of it being a nazi ufo lol. I mean possible, but i couldnt see how they would **** up like that.

Frosted, could you imagine being the private that accidentally launched an icbm because you messed up? Omfg it would be so brutal i dont wish that upon anyone.


But yah, clearly they had to have aborted it, it looked to be going pretty fast at a pretty high trajectory. The oceans big though, may have cut the boosters and just let it fall into the ocean. Man i just could not imagine being the one to mess something like that up. Imagine if it had hit something?

Would be interesting to know the trajectory had it not been aborted

[Frosted]

Maybe someone got wind of an incoming and retaliated and maybe they were all aborted?

[CoderGuy]

Maybe someone got wind of an incoming and retaliated and maybe they were all aborted?

Yeah hard to know what goes on when the kids aren't watching

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

No worries just a missle from nowhere Nothing to see here

[Darwin]

Sounds like like it may have been the result of a readiness exercise on a missile boat that somehow went awry in which case the military is going to be way more than close-lipped about it even if the bird had only a dummy warhead on it. A real warhead, conventional or nuclear, would likely not have been armed in an exercise but either way the Navy will move heaven and earth to find the errant SLBM. The task should be made easier since they probably know within a few meters where the thing came down. As far as NORAD not knowing anything about it the very idea is laughable.

[CoderGuy]

Sounds like like it may have been the result of a readiness exercise on a missile boat that somehow went awry in which case the military is going to be way more than close-lipped about it even if the bird had only a dummy warhead on it. A real warhead, conventional or nuclear, would likely not have been armed in an exercise but either way the Navy will move heaven and earth to find the errant SLBM. The task should be made easier since they probably know within a few meters where the thing came down. As far as NORAD not knowing anything about it the very idea is laughable.

I know LOL In this day and age a missile gets launched and "no one knows what it is or where it come from" lol Better be a cover, if it's not that's REALLY scary

[sgreger1]

Would be interesting to know the trajectory had it not been aborted

It takes very little to calculate the trajectory. If they could identify what type of projectile it was, it would be too easy. Somewhere, someone has already done this. Even with pictures from one or two angles you can get the trajectory. I wonder if it will be released or not. Much of what the military does is secret just because that's how they roll, and i dont blame them. But as a civilian it would be cool if they could explain this event and not just say it was a commercial aircraft.

It obviously couldnt be an aircraft because no plane, commercial or military, leaves the tarmac without filing the flight plan. And no missiles are launched from US waters that are not from the US. Just seems odd that they launched then canceled. Missiles/rockets are not cheap regardless of what kind,and the military are jews with their ammo. I find it highly unlikely that this was an accident but i cannot explain why they would have aborted it so early. A volley like that must have costed quite a bit of money i bet.

[sgreger1]

Sounds like like it may have been the result of a readiness exercise on a missile boat that somehow went awry in which case the military is going to be way more than close-lipped about it even if the bird had only a dummy warhead on it. A real warhead, conventional or nuclear, would likely not have been armed in an exercise but either way the Navy will move heaven and earth to find the errant SLBM. The task should be made easier since they probably know within a few meters where the thing came down. As far as NORAD not knowing anything about it the very idea is laughable.

I dunno man, we were attacked by several airplanes with no response from norad for hours. I am unsure whether to chalk that up to carefull planning or the military being unorganized. Both concepts exist in the system.

[sgreger1]

Was it his tone? Or the subject? For the record - submarines do launch from a little ways underwater - the missile is blasted up into the air pneumatically then the rocket starts. That retired diplomat was a bit silly - why would we need to prove that we can launch SLBM's? We've shown that pretty conclusively for 50 years or so.



Yeah, the airplane theory would hold up if we had 1 still image of this - IMO - the video of it blows this theory out of the water (no pun intended). Not to mention that the observers in LA should have experience with viewing both missiles and aircraft contrails.

Yah definately not an aircraft. But i too am puzzled by frosted's comment, it seems like an SLBM is almost mandatory for this to have happened.

[CoderGuy]

It takes very little to calculate the trajectory. If they could identify what type of projectile it was, it would be too easy. Somewhere, someone has already done this. Even with pictures from one or two angles you can get the trajectory. I wonder if it will be released or not. Much of what the military does is secret just because that's how they roll, and i dont blame them. But as a civilian it would be cool if they could explain this event and not just say it was a commercial aircraft.

It obviously couldnt be an aircraft because no plane, commercial or military, leaves the tarmac without filing the flight plan. And no missiles are launched from US waters that are not from the US. Just seems odd that they launched then canceled. Missiles/rockets are not cheap regardless of what kind,and the military are jews with their ammo. I find it highly unlikely that this was an accident but i cannot explain why they would have aborted it so early. A volley like that must have costed quite a bit of money i bet.

Yeah they know, sure of it. Maybe they didn't abort it, maybe it aborted someone else's

[Frosted]

Was it his tone? Or the subject? For the record - submarines do launch from a little ways underwater - the missile is blasted up into the air pneumatically then the rocket starts. That retired diplomat was a bit silly - why would we need to prove that we can launch SLBM's? We've shown that pretty conclusively for 50 years or so.

It was to do with the fact I've never seen a flying submarine.

[sgreger1]

You'd think that, "No comment" would be a better PR move then "I don't know"... If we were told, "No comment" we would think, "Military" and then ignore it.



Yeah, we pay for this expensive organization called NORAD to work this out. If this was a legitimate test it should have been preceeded by a NOTAM and a "notice to mariners". We do that even for "secret" launches. (Ignoring the logical problems of trying to keep the secret of a launch during the day 35 miles from a major city.)



Then you call the FAA and they say, "Yep, that was a [military/civilian] aircraft" = problem solved. As you might imagine, they keep a close eye on the airspace around LA (LAX, SNA, BUR, LGB, etc.)

Yah, im not sure what to chalk this up to. Weird failed missile test, aborted from the start, done in semi-broad daylight where news choppers could pick it up, and going against all the rules. I am really curious what happened here.