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  • justintempler
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    • Nov 2008
    • 3090

    #166
    pareidolia (ˌpæraɪˈdəʊlɪə) - n
    the imagined perception of a pattern or meaning where it does not actually exist, as in considering the moon to have human features

    http://rational-alchemy.com/pareidol...ia-of-the-week

    Morons On Mars! Pareidolia Of The Week! Other Main Page - Pareidolia of the Weak Written by Brian Walsh Tuesday, 06 October 2009 23:14
    Morons on Mars! Not actually on Mars but on the topic of Mars. I came across a website, Mars Anomaly Research, that has no shortage of paranoid lunacy. So, of course, good fun. Go have a look, it'll have you entertained for hours. Before you go check out the picture below. While I'm not sure what it actually is, I'm pretty sure it's not evidence of a secret civilization on Mars as these guys do.


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    • tom502
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      • Feb 2009
      • 8985

      #167
      If it was that Mars was once "like Earth", then it could have had advanced civilizations, which then migrated to Earth, if their planet was becoming inhabitable. If you do a google image search, I suspect many of these new color Mars pics may be available large for a desktop. But I do think it's possible we are not being told what the truth of mars is. Depending on were the pics are taken, one could take 1000's of Earth pics that never show a tree or flowing water as well.

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      • justintempler
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        • Nov 2008
        • 3090

        #168
        Originally posted by tom502 View Post
        If it was that Mars was once "like Earth", then it could have had advanced civilizations, which then migrated to Earth, if their planet was becoming inhabitable. If you do a google image search, I suspect many of these new color Mars pics may be available large for a desktop. But I do think it's possible we are not being told what the truth of mars is. Depending on were the pics are taken, one could take 1000's of Earth pics that never show a tree or flowing water as well.
        Yes tom the Martians were so smart that before they became extinct they programmed our DNA to show that we evolved and buried all those fossils so we'd never find out their secrets.

        The Martians are communicating with us through toast now.

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        • sgreger1
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          • Mar 2009
          • 9451

          #169
          Originally posted by tom502 View Post
          If it was that Mars was once "like Earth", then it could have had advanced civilizations, which then migrated to Earth, if their planet was becoming inhabitable. If you do a google image search, I suspect many of these new color Mars pics may be available large for a desktop. But I do think it's possible we are not being told what the truth of mars is. Depending on were the pics are taken, one could take 1000's of Earth pics that never show a tree or flowing water as well.
          I dont see why life couldnt have evolved, but that begs the question of how evolution works. It is not linear, and intelligence may not be the outcome of evolution every time. I mean look at earth, it's only happened once so far.

          I think mars MAY have had life, I mean all the right ingredients were there, and it had plenty of time. And life bein as resilient as it is, I imagine it may have found a way. But all that is so long gone that I doubt even a fossil record exists. I doubt any evidence would exist, though it may. I suspect we will find something eventually, maybe extraordinary, maybe not.


          As far as themcoming to earth, a civilization capable of colonizing a new planet like earth would leave a giant footprint to say the least. I doubt it. Though, I guess nothing is impossible. I think it is possible that microbes may have traveled here in the early days, but back then earth was not in a position to support much life. I mean humans certainly could not have lived here. But who knows, these are all assumptions about something that happened so long ago there would be no way top prove it either way. A microchip, if burried in the earth (or anywhere for that matter) would be nothing but sand after 1 billion years. We'd never find it.

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          • sgreger1
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            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #170
            Originally posted by justintempler View Post
            Yes tom the Martians were so smart that before they became extinct they programmed our DNA to show that we evolved and buried all those fossils so we'd never find out their secrets.

            The Martians are communicating with us through toast now.


            It appears toast is the prefered medium for dead people to show up.

            @PP, watch your toast when I die, it's going to have some NSFW images on it that i'd hate for your family to see.

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            • Roo
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              • Jun 2008
              • 3446

              #171
              Are we really still talking about aliens on Mars? Jesus Christ. Give up the pipe dreams. Why don't we talk about something plausible like life forms on planets that aren't barren rocks right next door? What is so hard to believe about a cold, desolate rock flying through space with no sign of life, past or present? Shit, there are probably billions of them, only a few of which we have detected. It's unbelievable that someone is unwilling to accept that NASA went to the moon, yet the ****ing Nazis had no problem getting there in flying saucers and setting up a secret base?? You have got to be shitting me.

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              • sgreger1
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                • Mar 2009
                • 9451

                #172
                Originally posted by Roo View Post
                Are we really still talking about aliens on Mars? Jesus Christ. Give up the pipe dreams. Why don't we talk about something plausible like life forms on planets that aren't barren rocks right next door? What is so hard to believe about a cold, desolate rock flying through space with no sign of life, past or present? Shit, there are probably billions of them, only a few of which we have detected. It's unbelievable that someone is unwilling to accept that NASA went to the moon, yet the ****ing Nazis had no problem getting there in flying saucers and setting up a secret base?? You have got to be shitting me.
                Uh oh tom, he's one of THEM....



                Yah no nazis on mars but probably lots of cool scoence finds. We should jumpstart our space program, it really benefitted everyone in a major way last time. Seems like it would be the best stimulis. Can anyone name any other program that jumped science ahead so much in such a short period? Just aluminum foil and the microwave alone were worth it, plus we got to piss off the russians. We need another cold war.

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                • Darwin
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                  • Mar 2010
                  • 1372

                  #173
                  Aluminum foil? It's been around for a full one hundred years. Microwave ovens? They were first introduced in 1947 by Raytheon Corp. as a byproduct of radar research. Not much there to do with the space program although obviously it used both items in various ways.

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                  • Condor
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 752

                    #174
                    Is there life on mars? Who knows. There are only 2 truths I live my life by: I don't **** with the devil, and I never tag team chicks with blood relatives. Other than that, everything is superfluous.

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                    • sgreger1
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #175
                      Originally posted by Darwin View Post
                      Aluminum foil? It's been around for a full one hundred years. Microwave ovens? They were first introduced in 1947 by Raytheon Corp. as a byproduct of radar research. Not much there to do with the space program although obviously it used both items in various ways.

                      Perhaps bad references, but i recall the space program had a lot to do with bringing those to the commercial market, no? They may have been available before then. Either way, the space program was a great time in human enginuity and science. Wenspend so much money now and accomplish so little. Surely it couldnt hurt as far as gov programs go.

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                      • Condor
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 752

                        #176

                        Watch this if you really want to know where tinfoil comes from

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                        • Darwin
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                          • Mar 2010
                          • 1372

                          #177
                          Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                          Perhaps bad references, but i recall the space program had a lot to do with bringing those to the commercial market, no? They may have been available before then. Either way, the space program was a great time in human enginuity and science. Wenspend so much money now and accomplish so little. Surely it couldnt hurt as far as gov programs go.
                          There actually are very few all new technologies that were invented specifically for the space program but a fair number had their developments greatly accelerated by NASA's spending spree in the 1960s. Unfortunately current space related technologies are somewhat like Formula 1 racing technologies in that they are so extremely specific to their intended uses that little finds its way into our general technological infrastructure. For instance space exploration is not a driver at all of computer hardware, the Shuttle's antiquated units are a good example, but software may be another matter. The introduction of GPS has been a major driver of earthly applications but that can hardly be thought of as space exploration plus NASA has had little to do with the project.

                          I personally think the best use of NASA's research funds should be in the pursuit of powerful non-chemical rocket propulsion technologies. We simply are not going to be able to afford to explore the solar system with the severe limitations of conventionally fueled propulsion systems. They are just too expensive and too slow for planetary exploration to be anything more than a very occasional hyper expensive stunt. High thrust high specific impulse drives via nuclear or nuclear-electric means should be the focus of a major part of NASA's research budget rather than throwing vast sums of money at keeping the space station afloat or chasing the dream of trillion dollar manned Mars missions using conventionally fueled rockets. To establish a permanent presence on Mars will require spacecraft drives that are at least an order of magnitude more cost effective than what we can field now so why throw hundreds of billions at technologies that are already obsolete? Cynic that I am I predict that this is exactly what will happen.

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                          • Roo
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                            • Jun 2008
                            • 3446

                            #178
                            Condor wins

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                            • tom502
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                              • Feb 2009
                              • 8985

                              #179
                              I watched this 8 part youtube yesterday all about the Adamski case, and it was very compelling. His films and photos were analyzed at various labs and government institutions, and were found to be genuine. While some of it looks hokey to our eyes, some of his footage looks excellent, especially the cigar shaped mothership. He also had a valid reason why the government supresses UFOs, energy. Their craft work on free energy, and in our world, it's all about oil, and control of energy, and a free energy source would upset everything, mainly those in power. Go to youtube and look up "Leslie UFO", and start at number 1.

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                              • jamesstew
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                                • May 2008
                                • 1440

                                #180
                                Sorry but it doesn't matter in the slightest how well he faked the cigar-looking spaceship since he was debunked with the one he stuck on the window and filmed. I'll post the pics again but it's absolutely undeniable; the guy was a douchebag, a fraud and a turd:

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