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Originally posted by tom502 View PostIf you know of crystal clear up close high res mars pics, of the landscape, please give me a link. I want to see the areas where the pyramids are, and the land area surrounding them. Thanks.
They are available everywhere andhave been for years. There is simply no sign of trees.
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/200...andscapes.html
As for the face on mars, here you go:
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We have high res pics from mars that are equivalent to those we have on earth. We can see the mars rover from our sattelites orbitting mars, I am pretty sure no trees are going to pass by.
I mean, maybe there are characters from Avatar worshipping a giant tree up there? We just can't say untill someone manually walks and photographs every inch of mars in high-def 3d. It's simply the only way.
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Originally posted by sgreger1 View PostThey are available everywhere andhave been for years. There is simply no sign of trees.
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/200...andscapes.html
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Originally posted by tom502 View PostMars has large forests and lakes:
Show me these areas in clear color footage.
I have no way of knowing where those pictures were taken. The first one may be easier to find because it gives a lat/long. I think I recall seeing the frozen methane lake in your picture there in a color version once. Let me see if I can find it.
Tom, I totally see where you are coming from with your perception of what appear to be trees in those pics. I really liked the mars anomaly research site but really he is taking the pictures out of context.
Using such low quality black and white images can lead to seeing all sorts of things that aren't there. for example, the face on mars. The orriginal low res black and white one looked astoundingly like a face. I was like "HA! Explain THAT away nasa!", untill they eventually were pressured to send their sattelites their and take more high-res and near true color photos, which showed it to be nothing but a play on light and that it didn't resemble a face at all.
That's all this is tom. But the surface is so amazingly beautifull, surely something cool is up there. A planet that existed for that long almost surely must have had some form of life at one point, especially given that it had an atmosphere and liquid water about a billion years ago. Anything that lived on ti is long gone though, and little to nothing would have survived such a chaotic and abrupt end to the planets atmospheric stability.
But check out the link in my last post, it has some of the coolest mars pictures ive ever seen.
Here it is again:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/200...andscapes.html
Here's some C02 ice:
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Originally posted by lxskllr View PostThose pictures are impressive as hell. I wish they were desktop sized. I'd use them on my computer.
I know, they are stunning. Mars has famously beautfull sand dunes that take all kind of cool shapes and colors because of the completely alien conditions of the climate/soil composition up there. The sand in some places is a certain color when in large grains and when grinded down is a different or lighter color. The shallow gusts of win (over long periods of time) move the lighter off-color particles at a different pace than the larger heavier particles, leaving this cool painted hill effect.
Of course Tom's website alludes to the fact that these sand dunes are actually sand creatures but that is of course nonesense.
I think mars will surprise us. At one point is was nearly just like earth in that it had an atmosphere and oceans of water. Something cool was there, and almost surely life existed in one for or another over the course of the planet's long history. But she got old about 1 billion years ago, right around the time the earth was coming up to bat, she died will earth flourished. It is even possible that asteroids carried microbial life to earth and that's what seeded it in the first place. Who knows.
But what we do know is that it's been dead for about as long as earth has been alive, and after such a cataclysmic shift in the atmosphere, and with all of the oceans of the planet all sinking to the poles and freezing, we're talking about a flood remniscent of Noah's tale in the bible. Nothing would have survived, and slow weathering and cosmic rays would have long destroyed any evidence of anything. We'd be lucky to find fossils of worms at the most.
Then again, life is extremely resilient. Part of me would like to believe that if life ever did exist, that it would have found a way to stay alive, or to stay dormant, like life here on earth does. We've gone from a hot primordial soup, to ice age, and back several times on earth, and life only gets stronger each time. If life ever existed on mars, it probably stuck around long after the cataclysm that left it as the barren red planet we see today.
TOM: Also, trees have to eat and breath, they leave a HUGE organic signature which we would see from a mile away. No way we could miss it, at all.
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The first one I can't because there is no such thing as a longitude of 201.39 west, unless the author actually meant that as 158.61 East? I mean that is pretty bad that someone with such a scientific proof does not know how to properly label planetary coordinates.
As for the other, there is no location for. So again I can't, I don' t know where it is you are talking about. Atleast the "Atlantis Ruins" I can find on google maps. HEHEHEHEHE.
Ken
Epic Science Fail on the coordinates!
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http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/s05_.../S0600607.html
Longitude of image center: 201.39°W Latitude of image center: 81.86°S Scaled pixel width: 4.37 meters Scaled image width: 2.95 km Scaled image height: 57.50 km Solar longitude (Ls): 206.63° Local True Solar Time: 16.23 decimal hours Emission angle: 17.96° Incidence angle: 75.49° Phase angle: 63.23° North azimuth: 110.62° Sun azimuth: 45.41° Spacecraft altitude: 374.83 km Slant distance: 392.01 km
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Hmm from a wiki:
"Note that the modern standard for measuring longitude on Mars is "planetocentric longitude", which is measured from 0°–360° East and measures angles from the center of Mars. The older "planetographic longitude" was measured from 0°–360° West and used coordinates mapped onto the surface.[2]"
I have never heard of that, but then again never had to use a GPS on mars, egg on my face. Makes all of those numbers the old way of doing things on mars apparently.
Well add another tick mark on my when I am wrong log book and move on.
Ken
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