Mars

[WickedKitchen]

Do you think that we'll see the colonization of Mars in our lifetime? I recently read an article about a one-way mission and I got to thinking...would I go if the opportunity arose? I suppose I would be disqualified anyhow, but if I weren't...would I be up for the adventure? Would you?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...e-forever.html

From the article it seems the one-way idea would be a cost-saving idea. Probably wouldn't fly (no pun intended) but the last few lines make it at least plausible. Would you go if they told you that there was a strong likelihood that you could return at some point?

Going would of course mean no snus. Hmmmmmmm.

[tom502]

If I was single I might. But I don't see it happening in our generation.
Germany went to Mars years back, using Vril craft. But after the war, they took that technology with them.

GERMAN-JAPANESE FLIGHT TO THE MOON AND MARS IN 1945-46:
According to the authors of the underground German documentary movie from the Thule society, the only produced craft of the Haunibu-3 type - the 74 meter diameter naval warfare dreadnought - was chosen for the most courageous mission of this whole century - the trip to Mars. The craft was of saucer shape, had the bigger Andromeda tachyon drives, and was armed with four triple gun turrets of large naval caliber (three inverted upside down and attached to the underside of the craft, and the fourth on top of the crew compartments).
A volunteer suicide crew of Germans and Japanese was chosen, because everybody knew that this journey was a one-way journey with no retum. The large intensity of the electro-magnetogravitic fields and the inferior quality of the metal alloys used then for the structural elements of the drive, was causing the metal to fatigue and get very brittle only after a few months of work of the drive. The flight to Mars departed from Germany one month before the war ended - in April 1945.

It was probably a large crew, numbering in the hundreds, because of the low level of automation and electronic controls inside the saucer. Most of the systems of the craft had to be operated like these on a U-boat of that time - manually. Because the structurally weakened tachyon drives were not working with full power and not all the time, the trip to Mars took almost 8 months to accomplish. An initial short trust towards Mars was probably used the strong gravitational field close to Earth, after that the craft was "coasting" for 8 months in an elliptical orbit to Mars with its main drives turned off. Later trips to Mars by the joint Soviet - American craft in 1952 and by the Vatican craft of the Marconi project from Argentina in 1956 reached Mars in only 2 - 3 days, because their drives were working during the whole flight: accelerating in the first half and decelerating in the second. Smaller Kohler converters were probably used to power the systems and life support equipment on board. I do not have any information at the present time about any artificial gravity capability on board the craft, but that could have been easily done with the large antigravity drives of the ship.

After a heavy, almost crashing landing, the saucer slammed to a stop, damaging irreparably its drives, but saving the crew. That happened in the middle of January 1946. The crash landing on Mars was not only due to the crippled tachyon drives of the craft - it was also due to the smaller gravitational fleld of Mars generating less power for the tachyon drives; and also due to the thinner atmosphere on Mars, that could not be used as effectively for air breaking as the Earth's atmosphere could. The craft was shaped as a giant saucer - a form that is very efficient as an air brake, when it is entered into the atmosphere with its luge cross section perpendicular to the trajectory of descent.

One question, that I have not answered yet in the affirmative is how were the Germans able to regenerate the air inside the craft for 8 months for this big crew. Quite probably they were using advanced life support systems, developed initially for their larger Walter turbine and free energy submarines, that were cruising the oceans without resurfacing.

The radio message with the mixed news was received by the German underground space control center in Neu Schwabenland and by their research base on the Moon.


http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/moonger.html

[BadAxe]

If I was single I might. But I don't see it happening in our generation.
Germany went to Mars years back, using Vril craft. But after the war, they took that technology with them.

GERMAN-JAPANESE FLIGHT TO THE MOON AND MARS IN 1945-46:
According to the authors of the underground German documentary movie from the Thule society, the only produced craft of the Haunibu-3 type - the 74 meter diameter naval warfare dreadnought - was chosen for the most courageous mission of this whole century - the trip to Mars. The craft was of saucer shape, had the bigger Andromeda tachyon drives, and was armed with four triple gun turrets of large naval caliber (three inverted upside down and attached to the underside of the craft, and the fourth on top of the crew compartments).
A volunteer suicide crew of Germans and Japanese was chosen, because everybody knew that this journey was a one-way journey with no retum. The large intensity of the electro-magnetogravitic fields and the inferior quality of the metal alloys used then for the structural elements of the drive, was causing the metal to fatigue and get very brittle only after a few months of work of the drive. The flight to Mars departed from Germany one month before the war ended - in April 1945.

It was probably a large crew, numbering in the hundreds, because of the low level of automation and electronic controls inside the saucer. Most of the systems of the craft had to be operated like these on a U-boat of that time - manually. Because the structurally weakened tachyon drives were not working with full power and not all the time, the trip to Mars took almost 8 months to accomplish. An initial short trust towards Mars was probably used the strong gravitational field close to Earth, after that the craft was "coasting" for 8 months in an elliptical orbit to Mars with its main drives turned off. Later trips to Mars by the joint Soviet - American craft in 1952 and by the Vatican craft of the Marconi project from Argentina in 1956 reached Mars in only 2 - 3 days, because their drives were working during the whole flight: accelerating in the first half and decelerating in the second. Smaller Kohler converters were probably used to power the systems and life support equipment on board. I do not have any information at the present time about any artificial gravity capability on board the craft, but that could have been easily done with the large antigravity drives of the ship.

After a heavy, almost crashing landing, the saucer slammed to a stop, damaging irreparably its drives, but saving the crew. That happened in the middle of January 1946. The crash landing on Mars was not only due to the crippled tachyon drives of the craft - it was also due to the smaller gravitational fleld of Mars generating less power for the tachyon drives; and also due to the thinner atmosphere on Mars, that could not be used as effectively for air breaking as the Earth's atmosphere could. The craft was shaped as a giant saucer - a form that is very efficient as an air brake, when it is entered into the atmosphere with its luge cross section perpendicular to the trajectory of descent.

One question, that I have not answered yet in the affirmative is how were the Germans able to regenerate the air inside the craft for 8 months for this big crew. Quite probably they were using advanced life support systems, developed initially for their larger Walter turbine and free energy submarines, that were cruising the oceans without resurfacing.

The radio message with the mixed news was received by the German underground space control center in Neu Schwabenland and by their research base on the Moon.


http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/moonger.html

I remember that episode of Star Trek.

[sgreger1]

I love how the germans supposedly had all this futuristic technology and yet never used it once during the war, and lost as a result of that.

[tom502]

I don't think they "lost". They just relocated.

[WickedKitchen]

There would be plenty to do I'm sure, but the basic human needs for relaxation and endorphin release would be hard to come by.

I think the artificial gravity would be in the form of centrifugal force and if it's big enough you could even ride a bike there. The outer edge of the ship would rotate to provide this.

I also saw a documentary on space sex suits. I think it was on Modern Marvels so, of course, there was no demonstration. That's ok though...I have a vivid imagination.

[sgreger1]

This whole thing where like-minded individuals make websites that suggest stories of extravegance by hitler etc boil down to little more than Nazi fanfiction. They have nothing to support their claims other than the words they type in their articles.

I wonder if you would read the same stories tom if you replaced every instance of German/Nazi/Vrill with "Jewish". Maybe they went to Mars first?

[tom502]

Well, but there are early reports of the Vril society, those hot girls, and the Vril energy machine, and all the saucer craft blueprints, like the Vril and Hanuebu, as well as the Moon and Mars trips, and the Aldebaran trip, which I believe Hitler was a part of, as well as the NueSchwabenland base, and moon base, etc, etc. It could all be bunk, but these reports come from the 3rd Reich, and no where else.

[sgreger1]

There would be plenty to do I'm sure, but the basic human needs for relaxation and endorphin release would be hard to come by.

I think the artificial gravity would be in the form of centrifugal force and if it's big enough you could even ride a bike there. The outer edge of the ship would rotate to provide this.

I also saw a documentary on space sex suits. I think it was on Modern Marvels so, of course, there was no demonstration. That's ok though...I have a vivid imagination.

Relaxation? endorphines? I guess now is as good a time as any to test the effects of smoking mary j and crack in space. lol


This would be for hardcore scientists only, the kind that normally just sit in a lab doign experiments and have no life. I am sure there are plenty of them.

[devilock76]

This whole thing where like-minded individuals make websites that suggest stories of extravegance by hitler etc boil down to little more than Nazi fanfiction. They have nothing to support their claims other than the words they type in their articles.

I wonder if you would read the same stories tom if you replaced every instance of German/Nazi/Vrill with "Jewish". Maybe they went to Mars first?

This post made me think of this.

Ken

[devilock76]

Well, but there are early reports of the Vril society, those hot girls, and the Vril energy machine, and all the saucer craft blueprints, like the Vril and Hanuebu, as well as the Moon and Mars trips, and the Aldebaran trip, which I believe Hitler was a part of, as well as the NueSchwabenland base, and moon base, etc, etc. It could all be bunk, but these reports come from the 3rd Reich, and no where else.

<sarcasm>Yeah, the third reich was definitely known for the integrity of their information</sarcasm>

Ken

[TheOneandOnly]

So where did the Germans go after the war?

[devilock76]

So where did the Germans go after the war?

Uranus?

I never said I was above sophomoric humor.

Ken

[sgreger1]

Well, but there are early reports of the Vril society, those hot girls, and the Vril energy machine, and all the saucer craft blueprints, like the Vril and Hanuebu, as well as the Moon and Mars trips, and the Aldebaran trip, which I believe Hitler was a part of, as well as the NueSchwabenland base, and moon base, etc, etc. It could all be bunk, but these reports come from the 3rd Reich, and no where else.

Tom, I can make blueprints for a UFO on Autocad right now and be done by lunchtime. Early reports by some cult are no more valid than early reports from Heaven's Gate that aliens were concealing themselves in the hale-bop comet and that the only way to get to them is by killing yourself.

Tom, if any of these people had any of this technology, don't you think they'd use it? Maybe even when engaged in a war that you are losing, as opposed to keeping all your cool tech to yourself and being defeated.

[tom502]

I think it was new to them, and while they were losing the physical war, they didn't want to lose the grand scheme of their accomplishments, which would have happened if they brought out the 5 or 6 so saucer craft, so they took what they had and their top people and "disappeared".