Noob Box Pass III

[chadizzy1]

I haven't read through the whole thread, but I've been kind of disenchanted with the box passes. I've been in 2 that have disappeared, and for some reason I feel personally responsible for them. I don't like shit disappearing on my watch, even when there isn't much I can do about it.

My suggestion would be for participants to post bond via PayPal to a trusted member. That may be a barrier to some, but if they have money to lose in the deal, it might keep boxes from disappearing. Keep the value of the box at $75 or less, and post a $100 bond. That way there's no incentive to make off with the contents.

I like that idea a LOT.

[lxskllr]

I haven't read through the whole thread, but I've been kind of disenchanted with the box passes. I've been in 2 that have disappeared, and for some reason I feel personally responsible for them. I don't like shit disappearing on my watch, even when there isn't much I can do about it.

My suggestion would be for participants to post bond via PayPal to a trusted member. That may be a barrier to some, but if they have money to lose in the deal, it might keep boxes from disappearing. Keep the value of the box at $75 or less, and post a $100 bond. That way there's no incentive to make off with the contents.

[jagmanss]

Perhaps providing a bit more info to the Route Master about yourself might be helpful, like your home phone AND cell phone. I don't think that anyone with good intentions would mind doing this. If people want to be trusted then maybe they should show that level of trust up front. Nobody wants to get a call at 3:00 in the morning but then again nobody wants to be screwed over either. I'm not saying that will happen, Just an idea.

I think this may be A decent proposal as caller ID would confirm the persons name and if something happens to the box about 50 phone calls all hours of the day and night for days and weeks might deter anybody from trying to steal it as they would have to change both numbers and who wants to go through that. This would have to be known to all particapants up front before they sign up for the box pass.... it would seem there needs to be some kind of deterant put in place to stop future thefts....

[ChaoticGemini]

That is kind of a good point. 150 posts does not necessarily show someone's activity and/or trustworthiness, but I don't have a better suggestion either. I just looked and don't have 150 posts either and I wouldn't consider a noob box being that useful to me at this point because there are VERY few that I have not tried. Those that I have not are unlikely to ever be in a box pass.

[chadizzy1]

yeah 2 from the II box pass, hers and this last one with mynd. Chad had just loaded it after his trip too dagnabit!

that may have been the one i put the goodies in. one had lucky strike, camel, romeo y julieta, and montecristo - like 7-8 cans of each.

[EricHill78]

Would Registered mail be overkill? Then you would know if it was stolen or not.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Big difference between lost and stolen in my book, especially when talking about the character of people on this forum or in general. It's just like blaming BuySnus because UPS lost your shit.

[Simplysnus]

didn't one get lost after christy sent it as well?????

yeah 2 from the II box pass, hers and this last one with mynd. Chad had just loaded it after his trip too dagnabit!

[Bigblue1]

didn't one get lost after christy sent it as well?????

[chadizzy1]

If you are saying 6 boxes got STOLEN, then I understand. I haven't read all the box pass threads. I would also suggest not sending snus to Chad if he lost 4 already LOL J/K

I like to believe that SnusOn members in general (even the brand new ones) CAN be trusted with this sort of thing. At least for the most part (I mean don't send dead bird parts covered with mortar and you'll be good IMO LOL).

I had 2 lost after I sent then, both full (50+ cans). Mrmynd stole the last one, and another one was "stolen from someones car". Bad luck with the Noob boxes.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

I can see this might get messy. Thing is I've had two boxes die. One was Noob Box and one wasn't. I think Chad had 4 lost. There's obviously a history here that people can't be trusted in general with this sort of thing. ...
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If you are saying 6 boxes got STOLEN, then I understand. I haven't read all the box pass threads. I would also suggest not sending snus to Chad if he lost 4 already LOL J/K

I like to believe that SnusOn members in general (even the brand new ones) CAN be trusted with this sort of thing. At least for the most part (I mean don't send dead bird parts covered with mortar and you'll be good IMO LOL).

[chadizzy1]

I can see this might get messy. Thing is I've had two boxes die. One was Noob Box and one wasn't. I think Chad had 4 lost. There's obviously a history here that people can't be trusted in general with this sort of thing. Posts do show your dedication to wanting to be in and a part of something. Perhaps providing a bit more info to the Route Master about yourself might be helpful, like your home phone AND cell phone. I don't think that anyone with good intentions would mind doing this. If people want to be trusted then maybe they should show that level of trust up front. Nobody wants to get a call at 3:00 in the morning but then again nobody wants to be screwed over either. I'm not saying that will happen, but I didn't think that the boxes would get lost this many times either. Just an idea.

I like the idea of including cell numbers.

Also, I like the other idea of more than one box going. Perhaps one of the newer guys can start one up for newer guys. That might be fun too, and no post count rules on it.

[WickedKitchen]

I can see this might get messy. Thing is I've had two boxes die. One was Noob Box and one wasn't. I think Chad had 4 lost. There's obviously a history here that people can't be trusted in general with this sort of thing. Posts do show your dedication to wanting to be in and a part of something. Perhaps providing a bit more info to the Route Master about yourself might be helpful, like your home phone AND cell phone. I don't think that anyone with good intentions would mind doing this. If people want to be trusted then maybe they should show that level of trust up front. Nobody wants to get a call at 3:00 in the morning but then again nobody wants to be screwed over either. I'm not saying that will happen, but I didn't think that the boxes would get lost this many times either. Just an idea.

[Nvr2Stond]

In my opinion, the snus that is put in the box, needs to come from the people that wish to receive the box. So, I say, we mail the snus to chad, chad sorts the X brands out and puts them in sandwich bags, then each person that sent in a can, gets their can back, with different portions inside. This way, everyone that wishes to participate will get to try some new snus and there is nothing for them to steal.

Each snuser should also send a few dollars to have the can shipped back to you.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

I haven't participated in a box pass for a long time, but I had a lot of fun in the ones I was part of (even if the box got stolen). I really agree that trust and faith are important to the magic of something like this. It sucks to get burned (I know), but it's important to just shrug that off and make it right. I suggest not donating anything you would be heartbroken to see stolen. Once you donate your stuff and put your trust and faith in other people's hands you should accept that risk. If something goes wrong, shrug it off and just keep at it. There's a lot of people on this site willing to donate, so I don't see any shortage of stuff to put in the box or the replacement box. I would happily support a box pass without the extra qualifiers or new rules. I know some of you have really put some $$$ into these only to see it disappear, it's happened to me, it sucks really bad. But I suggest moving forward, as always, in good faith, knowing the risks, and letting karma work it out in the end.

Cheers!

Edit: I also think having smaller ones and more than one at once would be good to hedge the bet a bit.