How is Sterk Made?

[RRK]

I think perique is generally air cured but is it possible to find it non fermented?

I think it's fermented by definition. If I'm not mistaken, perique is made by packing tobacco in bourbon barrels where it then ferments. I'll look it up later, and see what the story is.

Yeh thats what I read. Finding non fermented, air cured tobacco is a pain in the butt.

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

I ordered from http://primafint.se/

Whats the difference between the different tobaccos?

I believe the grov and prima are just different grinds of the same tobacco(s). Grov is coarser.

I don't know about the "premium".

[RRK]

I believe the grov and prima are just different grinds of the same tobacco(s). Grov is coarser.

I don't know about the "premium".

Any idea about coobra?

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

I believe the grov and prima are just different grinds of the same tobacco(s). Grov is coarser.

I don't know about the "premium".

Any idea about coobra?

Not sure. Looks like it could be for ciggs?

[RRK]

Not sure. Looks like it could be for ciggs?

Yeh but the've got it listed in the snussatser section also. Which I believe means snuff kits.

Did you notice they changed the site address to http://www.fixaeget.se/

[Mr. Snuffleupagus]

Yeah it's confusing to me.

The site name has changed but looks pretty much the same to me. I'm pretty sure is the same person/people.

Don't be afraid to email them questions. If they start to think there might be a market here for the kits it would probably get a lot easier/cheaper to get them over here.

[RRK]

Yeah it's confusing to me.

The site name has changed but looks pretty much the same to me. I'm pretty sure is the same person/people.

Don't be afraid to email them questions. If they start to think there might be a market here for the kits it would probably get a lot easier/cheaper to get them over here.

Will do.

[cyrax777]

I just did the calculation on rustica. I don't think it could be used for snus. The nicotine content is up to 9% which I think would be 90mg per gram. :shock: The more common tobacco strains have 1-3% which I guess would be 10-30mg per gram. Still sounds like a lot.

well the natives were known to smoke and then konk out in a trance from the nic hit

[fedora]

SnusoMatirc wrote:

oh someone turned me onto a company that sells whole tobacco leaf by the kilo i think. cant order it on the net, it has to be ordered over the phone. i keep meaning to give making some homemade stark a try but just work too much.

Link please!!!!! (Or phone number!!!) :-)

[SnusoMatic]

SnusoMatirc wrote:

oh someone turned me onto a company that sells whole tobacco leaf by the kilo i think. cant order it on the net, it has to be ordered over the phone. i keep meaning to give making some homemade stark a try but just work too much.

Link please!!!!! (Or phone number!!!) :-)

i just checked the url i had for them and it don't work for some reason. all that was there was a form to signup to get their printed catalog. its called "fred Stoker and Sons". They are in TN and been in business since 1940. i live in alabama and i know several people who buy chew and other tobacco from them. iow, it's not a rip off company. for all i know the reason their site dont work could be because they are just non computer people and don't care. hey it can be like that around here. here is enough info on them for you to get them to send you a catalog. its a really nice catalog and they sell all sorts of good stuff.

Fred Stoker & Sons Inc
3846 Sharon Highway
Dresden, tn 38225-1756
Phone: (731) 364-5419

below is a pic from their catalog. i said they sell by the kilo but its by the pound, got confused. prices might be out of date but other info is good. if your idea of "leaf" is chewing leaf they have plenty of that too haha.

[thatguyjeff]

Way back when I used to work for Phillip Morris - this is what I was told about making cigs (doesn't apply to snus I know, but here it is anyway):

They basically extract the nicotine from the tobacco used to make light cigs and add it (some) to the regular cigs.

The tobacco (for lights) is soaked in some sort of chemical bath (mostly water). They have this down to a science as in exactly how much nicotine is removed with which formulation for whatever amount of time the tobacco soaks.

The liquid with the bonus nicotine in it is then added to the regular cigs... the cig tobacco is (in general) really more like a paper than the tobacco leaf. The plant is processed sort of like you would make paper - the tobacco paper is then sprayed with flavorings - bonus nicotine, etc. and then chopped up and rolled into the cig.

[RRK]

Almost the opposite of making a cigar.

[spirit72]

I think it's fermented by definition. If I'm not mistaken, perique is made by packing tobacco in bourbon barrels where it then ferments. I'll look it up later, and see what the story is.

Yeah, it's been awhile since I read much about Perique, but that's pretty much it. It's fermented under pressure in its own juice(if I remember correctly, it's actually a Burley at the beginning), and has a very high nicotine content.

I'm not sure how it would fare as an oral tobacco, but my gut reaction is 'probably not well'. Even pipe tobacco blends that use Perique use a very, very small amount...less than 10% if I remember correctly, and that would be a *strong* blend, like your Virginia/Perique blends, basically...and even then it really adds some punch.

[sagedil]

From my pipe board....


Perique - Louisiana - is grown in only in St, James Parish in Louisiana. It originated with Native Americans who steeped the tobacco in its own juice in hollow logs. Today, its produced by fermenting twist in their own juices under pressure for 9-10 months. It is still steeped in its own juice to make it Perique. It is very strong and few blends have more than 10-15% added.

[bakerbarber]

From my pipe board....


Perique - Louisiana - is grown in only in St, James Parish in Louisiana. It originated with Native Americans who steeped the tobacco in its own juice in hollow logs. Today, its produced by fermenting twist in their own juices under pressure for 9-10 months. It is still steeped in its own juice to make it Perique. It is very strong and few blends have more than 10-15% added.

Oh yeah you own that too?

lol

I'm just teasing you. :lol:

I think your enthusiasm is great sometimes.