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  • c.nash
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    • May 2010
    • 3511

    #46
    Originally posted by chadizzy1 View Post
    But still, you can't deny a lot of the marketing is in the tin. What's the coolest part about Lucky Strike? The tin. To date - what is the best Snus tin ever made? (IMO, if course - 1847, the old sleek tin). That's a big part in the appeal of a high dollar tin. People don't buy General Los because of the cheap paperboard container. They buy it for the quality. A mint Snus aimed at the US to compete with an established product like Camel would need to turn heads. Honestly, did anyone ever look at a can of General and say, "OMG that's soooooo hot!!!!!"? Haha, probably not
    I like the onyx cans, and the bulletproof and carbon fiver cabs are awesome. I wish I had a carbon fiber can, I would trade my bulletproof can for one of thee that's for sure.

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    • chadizzy1
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      • May 2009
      • 7432

      #47
      Originally posted by c.nash View Post
      I might have to try that then. Is it still available to the US?
      I don't believe so.

      And I may have an extra carbon tin. I had 2 or 3 of them last time I checked. I'll see when I get home.

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      • c.nash
        Banned Users
        • May 2010
        • 3511

        #48
        Originally posted by chadizzy1 View Post
        I don't believe so.

        And I may have an extra carbon tin. I had 2 or 3 of them last time I checked. I'll see when I get home.
        Let me know. I'll be as happy as a pig in shit. Lol

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        • N0mad
          Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 550

          #49
          Originally posted by chadizzy1 View Post
          The OriginalPursuit.com folks have been saying "something big is coming to the US...", this may be it. Just a guess though.
          I hope it is real Swedish snus and not a formula that takes away from the traditional GothiaTek process just to please what they think are American taste.

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          • chadizzy1
            Member
            • May 2009
            • 7432

            #50
            Originally posted by N0mad View Post
            I hope it is real Swedish snus and not a formula that takes away from the traditional GothiaTek process just to please what they think are American taste.
            All Snus produced by SM is produced by GothiaTek. No worries!

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            • N0mad
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              • Nov 2009
              • 550

              #51
              Chad I have just one question for you... Does your neighbor ever come over just to borrow a cup of snus portions?

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              • chadizzy1
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 7432

                #52
                Originally posted by N0mad View Post
                Chad I have just one question for you... Does your neighbor ever come over just to borrow a cup of snus portions?
                Actually there's some college kids down the street that I see smoking outside a lot, I gave them a bunch of General sample packs and they came back a few days later to get more....ended up getting them going and now 2 of the people in that house quit smoking and are full time Snus users.

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                • c.nash
                  Banned Users
                  • May 2010
                  • 3511

                  #53
                  Originally posted by chadizzy1 View Post
                  Actually there's some college kids down the street that I see smoking outside a lot, I gave them a bunch of General sample packs and they came back a few days later to get more....ended up getting them going and now 2 of the people in that house quit smoking and are full time Snus users.
                  That's awesome. I wish people down here were that receptive. I've tried and most people will give it a try and some will actually enjoy it but it won't get them off the smokes. :/

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                  • N0mad
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                    • Nov 2009
                    • 550

                    #54
                    I have converted one dipper but never a smoker and I've been trying for 10 years; as I stated before that's when I hand carried my first rolls of General back to the states... Maybe it's my approach but I see Airmen smoking at the base and I'll pull out a can of portions and offer but never had a taker.

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                    • c.nash
                      Banned Users
                      • May 2010
                      • 3511

                      #55
                      I've had a bunch of people that try it but it just never sticks for then. I really think the main reason is the availability. A lot of people are just lazy and want to be able to go down to the store and purchase something quick and easy.

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                      • N0mad
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                        • Nov 2009
                        • 550

                        #56
                        Originally posted by c.nash View Post
                        A lot of people are just lazy and want to be able to go down to the store and purchase something quick and easy.
                        I think you have a good point, availability and shelf space could be a huge factor just never thought of it like that.

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                        • c.nash
                          Banned Users
                          • May 2010
                          • 3511

                          #57
                          Originally posted by N0mad
                          I think you have a good point, availability and shelf space could be a huge factor just never thought of it like that.
                          Yeah, think of it this way. If there was a meat or drink you tried once that someone showed you and you went down to your local store but they didn't carry it. You would most likely just pick up the old favorite that you've been buying for years.

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                          • snusgetter
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                            • May 2010
                            • 10903

                            #58
                            Originally posted by N0mad
                            I think you have a good point, availability and shelf space could be a huge factor just never thought of it like that.

                            Shelf space:
                            They gotta be dry (non-refrigerated);
                            accessibility right next to Camel & Marlboro at the gas station.

                            Availability:
                            I don't know of many cigarette smokers who would go into a
                            cigar or pipe shop when they're not interested in either form
                            of tobacco. We would/we do 'cause we're dedicated snussers.

                            Not turning off the American tobacco consumer:
                            The main selling point of Whenever .. Wherever is crucial to getting their
                            early attention. The preaching of harm reduction is secondary in the early
                            stages (no pushy pushy). When they're ready they'll make the connection!

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                            • c.nash
                              Banned Users
                              • May 2010
                              • 3511

                              #59
                              Originally posted by snusgetter View Post
                              Shelf space:
                              They gotta be dry (non-refrigerated);
                              accessibility right next to Camel & Marlboro at the gas station.

                              Availability:
                              I don't know of many cigarette smokers who would go into a
                              cigar or pipe shop when they're not interested in either form
                              of tobacco. We would/we do 'cause we're dedicated snussers.

                              Not turning off the American tobacco consumer:
                              The main selling point of Whenever .. Wherever is crucial to getting their
                              early attention. The preaching of harm reduction is secondary in the early
                              stages (no pushy pushy). When they're ready they'll make the connection!
                              I don't totally agree with everything there. The dry part is kinda weak. There should be drudges and stuff as if you were getting a soda from the local shop. And I think harm-reduction should be advertised because that will push more people into it from their family and friends who have been trying to get them to stop smoking for years.

                              There are different ways to go about getting into the market in the US and I just think it's a matter of time unless the government just completely shuts it down. The only thing I am worried about is the possible price skyrocketing.

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                              • snusgetter
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                                • May 2010
                                • 10903

                                #60
                                Originally posted by c.nash View Post
                                I don't totally agree with everything there. The dry part is kinda weak. There should be drudges and stuff as if you were getting a soda from the local shop. And I think harm-reduction should be advertised because that will push more people into it from their family and friends who have been trying to get them to stop smoking for years.

                                There are different ways to go about getting into the market in the US and I just think it's a matter of time unless the government just completely shuts it down. The only thing I am worried about is the possible price skyrocketing.

                                I'm talking about early-market positioning. Camel and Marlboro, when I've seen them, are right up front with the cigarettes. Putting all your snus under refrigeration, away from the visible, attention-getting snus, is doing no one any favors. Consumers are accustomed to going to the coolers for 'a cold one' but not for anything they're expected to carry around in their pockets.

                                Baby steps -- that's what I'm saying. Once they're out of the crawling stage, then they'll take the next step and maybe even check out the 'better snus' which just happens to be refrigerated.

                                "it's a matter of time unless the government just completely shuts it down" -- time is of the essence so get the product out there, before the 'do-gooders' get in the way even more!! This is not the time to be elitist, unless you really want to be in the minority with your chosen nicotine addiction.


                                As far as "push more people into it from their family and friends who have been trying to get them to stop smoking for years" --- I haven't met any smokers who don't turn a deaf ear to constant nagging and preaching, no matter how benevolent it might be. That's why they've been trying to get them to stop smoking for years --- no one is listening 'cause everyone likes to think they have a mind of their own.


                                I'm not advocating that the harm reduction theme be cast aside .. just don't make it the central point of discussion --- sounds too much like big brother/big sister nagging and preaching.

                                Ex-smokers: Sound/look familiar??

                                You betcha..

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