Why Wintergreen!

[Bigblue1]

I think the Jak's wintergreen is really the right way to get dippers. It hits hard and fast and has a familiar flavor most dippers can relate to.

Again I would challenge anybody to submit some proof that wintergreen snuff is more popular than natural. I stand by my previous comments that copenhagen is the best selling dip in history. I will concede that most dippers start on wintergreen or flavored (much like some snussers) but peoples palates either adjust or mature to like natural. So if you are trying to capture the current user market you are not going to succeed by offering wintergreen or mint almost exclusively. These people for the most part will want a true tobacco flavor more than others. I could be wrong but I think not....

[lxskllr]

So, there is a SA Lucky Strike? Is it different that the Swedish one?

It's lightly sweet from what I've read. I imagine it being like a very mild Camel, or perhaps like General mint.

[tom502]

I would be curious what is the most popular dip flavor. For me, my faves are Natural, and Straight, though I was on the fence about Straight untill I tried the new Copenhagen Straight, and it's my fave dip of all.

[Bigblue1]

I would be curious what is the most popular dip flavor. For me, my faves are Natural, and Straight, though I was on the fence about Straight untill I tried the new Copenhagen Straight, and it's my fave dip of all.

Well according to the conwood rep I met with. He said that copenhagen was the best selling dip. The main reason that in the last 2 years they made grizz snuff (silver lid) and 1900 (gold lid) from what he said they already owned quite a bit of the wintergreen market due to the fact they produce good dip that costs less. The reason they waited on making an exclusive natural is because copenhagen snuff users are very brand loyal and will look at a less expensive version as a inferior version. Hence the difference in packaging from the grizz line to Grizz snuff a couple years ago. To me it seems they succeeded because it wasn't but a year after they came out that copenhagen snuff had a big price rollback. Anyway still waiting for the proof that wintergreen is more popular with American dippers than a good natural.

[Jwalker]

Wintergreen and mint are pretty popular at my college. I didn't know anyone who used copenhagen lc or any natural dip. No one used finecut either it was all longcut. Every guy I knew who smoked had tried dip. They were all beginners except for some people on baseball though. Whenever they smelled General original or Goteborgs rape they refused to use it most of the time. I was grossed out for the first ten portions of original that I used and well it's ok grew to like the flavor a little, but liked thunder and claq qui better.

[Owens187]

What is with people going out of their way to whine and bitch about wintergreen all the time? I don't get it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.

[shikitohno]

As lx said on the page before, I don't mind if wintergreen comes out in the US, but I'll be disappointed if it takes up way more shelf space here than the snus I like. If it's a choice between having stores stock five varieties of wintergreen snus or four varieties of wintergreen snus and then some Ettans or Grov, I'd prefer the second option. Really, I'd like to see a better spread than what the US looks like it'll be getting. There's so many different flavourings of snus that you just don't see in dip that could be used to emphasize the difference between the two and draw in non-traditional users. If you want to see snus become something you can buy at any gas station or corner store, I think you could do better by introducing flavours Americans aren't used to than the tried and true ones. Wintergreen you're competing with established brands, which people obviously already like. I'm expecting snus will probably be set at a price point somewhere near Skoal or Cope if it does break out big here, to make it clear that they aren't just a crap budget product. If that's the case, what's to inspire you're average dipper to decide to try out something new over what he knows he already likes? They can't even advertise the health claims here, so you lose that angle. I think something dip doesn't offer like lakrits, lingon berries, elderberries. or bergamot would go a lot further in inspiring interest in trying a new product that just another "natural" or "wintergreen" being put out. Have those two, but I can't help but feel SM is overlooking their most impressive selling point: the sheer variety of unique flavours that they can offer to the American market.

[LaZeR]

What is with people going out of their way to whine and bitch about wintergreen all the time? I don't get it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.

Not simple. That's the problem. New shit comes out and I just have to try it. I have 2 of that new "Jak's whatever... Wintergreen" chilling in the fridge now". Thought long and hard about it, finally gave in and ordered now I'm afraid to try it beings Wintergreen usually makes me puke. I just kept hearing how different it is from "General Wintergreen". So maybe it will just give me the shits and won't make me puke, who knows?

I'll get brave one of these days and try it or wait till i'm fuct up then maybe it won't matter...

[Monkey]

When I was dipping I dipped Skoal Original as my regular and threw in a can of Copenhagen Snuff once a week or so. Most of the dippers I know are wintergreen junkies.

I'm opposite with my snus tastes.