sagedil and lös

**Kitabz** · 29-05-09, 12:38 AM

I too am experimenting with the lös but I'm not having much success.

I'm trying the Nordströmmen Chocolate Raspberry (nice smell) and I did get a Prismaster but that wasn't very successful. Next I tried a butchered syringe but I think the diameter is too large (1cm!) so now I'm hand baking and getting a reasonable shape with only a few bits coming loose.

But then once it's in it's no-touch-mode and because of this, I can't taste any flavour (and not much if any nic-hit either for that matter).

So, the ice tool, everyone says it's worth it and I can see that there is a range of sizes but can anyone tell me what the respective diameters are approximately (I've searched the websites to no avail)? And can it make a pris that is less delicate than a hand baked one? Clearly I don't expect to be able to roll it around like a pouch but is any kind of movement possible without it falling apart?

Thanks for any advice...

**sydb** · 29-05-09, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by Kitabz

I too am experimenting with the lös but I'm not having much success.

I'm trying the Nordströmmen Chocolate Raspberry (nice smell) and I did get a Prismaster but that wasn't very successful. Next I tried a butchered syringe but I think the diameter is too large (1cm!) so now I'm hand baking and getting a reasonable shape with only a few bits coming loose.

But then once it's in it's no-touch-mode and because of this, I can't taste any flavour (and not much if any nic-hit either for that matter).

So, the ice tool, everyone says it's worth it and I can see that there is a range of sizes but can anyone tell me what the respective diameters are approximately (I've searched the websites to no avail)? And can it make a pris that is less delicate than a hand baked one? Clearly I don't expect to be able to roll it around like a pouch but is any kind of movement possible without it falling apart?

Thanks for any advice...

A fellow thrifty Scot should try my <pris-miser> which will allow him to keep his bawbees in his sporan a while longer.

I started on lös about two months back after three years of portions and love it. I still use portions at work and for convenience but lös is easy on my gums, cheaper by weight and enables a sturdier nicotine kick when required.

I was unsure about buying an icetool but my trick with the pen has convinced me to get one with my next order as the principle is similar and I just can't bake a pris without making a mess.

If you're trying to find the right diameter you could experiment with different sizes of pen! Maybe some kind soul can post the icetool diameters, it would help me too in my choice between 3, 4 and 5 ml. My own pris-miser is 9mm in diameter and it's fine but any larger would be a bit much. I'd probably prefer a couple of mm smaller.

You can make a pris as firm as you like in the compaction stage of pris formation. But I don't want it to stay too firm, the money shot takes place as the pris melts in my mouth. Then the nicotine absorption kicks in and the flavour is released. The molten pris stays pretty much put except when I flick it gently with the tip of my tongue (a useful action to practice). This is another reason a large pris doesn't bother me, it soon conforms to the shape of my under-lip cavity.

So I'm not too bothered about leaving it in it's native cylindrical form, I want it to shape shift. But once it's adapted to it's environment it doesn't like to move. But I have no reason to complain as there's no irritation.

PS I should admit I don't mind eating the stuff.

**lxskllr** · 29-05-09, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by sydb

If you're trying to find the right diameter you could experiment with different sizes of pen! Maybe some kind soul can post the icetool diameters, it would help me too in my choice between 3, 4 and 5 ml. My own pris-miser is 9mm in diameter and it's fine but any larger would be a bit much. I'd probably prefer a couple of mm smaller.

I can give you the 3ml dia. It's just the smallest of hairs(.1mm?) smaller than 1cm.

Edit:
To fix borked quote

**sydb** · 29-05-09, 01:53 AM

I can give you the 3ml dia. It's just the smallest of hairs(.1mm?) smaller than 1cm.

Really? I'm such a girl. I thought I was taking a gargantuan pris. 3ml it is, thanks.

**sagedil** · 29-05-09, 01:56 AM

I must say, even with an Icetool, I am still not getting much flavor. Hard to comment about nicotine. I just chainsnus so much, my blood level of nicotne rarely drops. Can't say much how good or bad the los contributes to such

If no one else has posted, I can measure my 3ml Icetool at work first thing n the morning.

**sydb** · 29-05-09, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by sagedil

I must say, even with an Icetool, I am still not getting much flavor. Hard to comment about nicotine. I just chainsnus so much, my blood level of nicotne rarely drops. Can't say much how good or bad the los contributes to such

If no one else has posted, I can measure my 3ml Icetool at work first thing n the morning.

lxskllr has done the deed already.

Do you let the pris melt in your mouth?

**ctimb2002** · 29-05-09, 04:41 AM

YUCK! It actually makes me sick to my stomach to hear people talk about "eating" there pris. I actually gag if any of the tobacco gets loose in my mouth. I think that is why I have SO much trouble in the "getting rid" of phase of los snus. I just never feel like I get it all out and I can't just grab it with my tongue and move it around at all.

**PassedPawn** · 29-05-09, 05:20 AM

Yummy! I love to eat bits of my pris (That's PRIS people). Seems to happen most with Ettan. Yummm.

When I die, I picture the Pathologists checking the contents of my stomach and nothing but brown-black snus oozing out. Ha ha.

**Snusdog** · 29-05-09, 05:42 AM

OK girls, if you need to put your snus in a tampon to enjoy it so be it. But before you completely give up on loose let me suggest something.

Use your applicator (errr… ice tool) for about a month. Stick with it and use at least a 50/50 pris to portion ratio. Do the usual: bake it, don’t play with it, bitch about there being no flavor, take a few Midol and wait.

Also start placing the pris on the right or left side of the mouth instead of directly in the front.

Once your mouth is used to having a pris in (i.e. your lip no longer feels tight or awkward, you can regularly touch it with your tongue, it no longer feels like its all going to come sliding down if you smile or talk, you no longer feel the urge to push on the out side of your lip to keep it in place, you seem to have developed a pouch in your lip where the snus just nestles in), then try the pinching method. No packing it, no tools, no baking. Just take the can, pinch a portion sized pris, giving it a little shape and firmness as you pinch, knock off the excess, open mouth, stick in (now this is important- press it in firmly and high up on the gum). Immediately adjust/pack it once with the tongue. Let it set up with out touching it (about 2 min). Then poke at it with the tongue and suck- compressing the lip towards the teeth. Ahh the flavor.

Note a crumbly or dry snus is harder to manage as is an extremely fine snus (Granit, Fint, and Roda are hard to hand toss). Start with something middle of the road grind wise.

**btrip** · 29-05-09, 05:53 AM

I enjoy General portions a LOT more than General los.

It just seems the portions have more taste.

Might try some General los though

**sydb** · 29-05-09, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by btrip

I enjoy General portions a LOT more than General los.

It just seems the portions have more taste.

Might try some General los though

I believe the portions have more flavouring added, because the portion material is a barrier to the natural flavour being released.

**vodkaniac** · 05-06-09, 03:12 AM

[quote="Snusdog"]OK girls, if you need to put your snus in a tampon to enjoy it so be it. Use your applicator (errr… ice tool) for about a month. Stick with it and use at least a 50/50 pris to portion ratio. Do the usual: bake it, don’t play with it, bitch about there being no flavor, take a few Midol and wait.

Snusdog - I was researching some old threads - getting ready to try los one more time - and I found this post. Just hilarious! Well said!

**Premium Parrots** · 05-06-09, 03:16 AM