Got my first tin of loose

[jdman321]

A bit too big for my tastes. The picture I posted is about as big as I'd ever make it, normally half that size should be good enough personally.

Unless I really want a fat juicy one and I'm at home and I know I won't talk to anyone lmao.

[Monkey]

That looks pretty damned big to me. It's all personal preference, but I'd make it 50%-66% smaller.

+1

Apparently +1 is too short to post....even with a quote. It os a nice length on that pris....the girth is where the most trouble comes from imo.

[jdman321]

Just part of the learning experience I guess. I'll find my perfect size with practice.

Loose smells so much better than portions. Also noticed my lip is more wrinkled after I take it out than with portions, suppose that's normal though.

[Monkey]

Swish some water and your lip will be fine....it is the salt from the tobacco being in direct contact with your lip.

[jdman321]

Yeah it went away after I rinsed with water after. Does that mean anything health wise? Is it any worse for you than portions?

[nicodude]

Here, this is the video that taught me:

It is second nature to me now, and takes less than 30 secs for the perfect pris. You don't want it too tight or the flavor takes forever to release, but to loose and it falls apart quickly. Also, once your hand starts to juice up, its time to finish the pris...

Los can cause leukoplakia quicker than portions in some cases, but the wrinkled 'elephant' skin is normal with los use, just rinse with water, and don't keep poking at it with your tongue or it will take longer to go away.

BTW sorry about my PM box being full, I just finished cleaning it out.

[Thunderstruck]

Yeah it went away after I rinsed with water after. Does that mean anything health wise? Is it any worse for you than portions?

Is sex worse for you without a condom? Shit yeah. But it's still better.

[Monkey]

Some people say you might get more recession from the bits of tobacco that can get up in your gumline but it is not an issue if you have good oral hygiene.

I have no issues myself so far. White portions tend to irritate my gums and originals drip too much for me and give me brown tooth....which goes away after brushing....so los is superior to me. No drip or irritation for me.

Salt in your mouth is not a bad thing...and you get it anyway with portions.

[sirloot]

yes los is nice and surprisingly not strong/bitter as i had expected.

[jdman321]

Okay, I won't stress myself over it then since I floss at least once a day, mouthwash twice a day along with brushing.

Nicodude, don't you have leukoplakia? How long have you been using loose?

Leukoplakia usually isn't dangerous, but it can sometimes be serious. Although most leukoplakia patches are benign, a small percentage show early signs of cancer, and many cancers of the mouth occur next to areas of leukoplakia.

:worriedface:

[Monkey]

I never snus in the same place in a row and have been known to use nasal snuff for the better part of the day when my lip or gum needs a rest.

Go through the snus and health section and follow some of the links posted in there.

For me the minor risk far outweighs the big risks I was taking smoking, and to a lesser extent than smoking, dipping.

[nicodude]

Thanks to my lucky stars and the almighty tobacco gods (lol) I do not have leukoplakia yet. And hopefully I never will. I actually just figured out that snus can cause it about a month ago, before that it wasn't on my mind. Unfortunately I have been using the same spot for far to long without rotating, but I have begun to do so recently. I do get elephant lip after los, but aside from that I don't get any pain, burning or discomfort in my mouth at all, so I *should* be okay for a while.

I haven't been using los as long as portions, or as much as portions, but I do use it daily, and several times a day lately. If you include camel I have been using snus for around a year, but switched over to all swedish last fall.

Leukoplakia is about the only fear I have from using snus, as I know that it would irritate the hell out of me, and I'd probably chew at it or something until it became cancerous.

But if you rotate spots daily, and use los on the opposite side you use portions, or the opposite side as your last los pris, you should be ok.

[jdman321]

That's true.

I alternate sides, I've never had any uncomfortable/painful gums while using portions though but I still like to alternate sides to try and prevent overusing one side more than the other.

[lxskllr]

Don't worry about leukoplakia. It's a scary sounding word that sounds a lot like leukemia, right? It's no big deal, and it won't cause cancer, or anything else. It'll make the inside of your mouth look funny, but that's it. Lös use has a higher incidence of gum recession, but that's it. I think the risk is worth it. The lös experience is vastly superior to portions.

[precious007]

Yeah it went away after I rinsed with water after. Does that mean anything health wise? Is it any worse for you than portions?

I dont think salt can harm you in any way..............

During the summer I take 4 hour bath every single day ... in the Black Sea that has quite a high level of salt ..... it's not like the ocean water ....... you can feel the salt heavily in your mouth........... just like the adriatic and mediteranean.......... and there's nothing wrong with my body or skin ....

The water literally goes through my nose, sinuses, years and even into my stomach sometimes when I happen to swallow by mistake a bit loooool actually it's medically recommended to drain your sinuses with sea water to clear up the infections.... and luckily I feel a lot better in the summer

The only thing that happens is my skin wrinkles when I stay too long in the water........... don't think salt is bad for the lip............