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  • snusgetter
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    • May 2010
    • 10903

    #1

    Gotta love that BIG GOVERNMENT...

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    E-smokes gaining steam amid calls for a ban


    RICHMOND, Va. — Galen Kipe hasn't smoked a cigarette in more than three months.

    He couldn't kick his habit of 17 years with nicotine patches or gum. He finally put away his Marlboro menthols for good by swapping them for electronic cigarettes, which look like the real thing and give him his nicotine fix but do not contain tobacco.

    "It's the closest thing to what I was doing before," the 34-year-old steelworker from Asheboro, N.C., said. "I'm still getting the nicotine, but I don't feel like I'm getting any kind of bad side effects. It can't be any worse than actual cigarettes."

    As they become more popular, the battery-powered cigarettes have become the center of a fight over how risky they are compared with traditional smokes, whether they're legal and, if they are, how they should be regulated.

    E-cigarettes are made of plastic and metal and heat a liquid nicotine solution in a disposable cartridge, creating vapor that the "smoker" inhales. A tiny light on the tip even glows like a real cigarette.

    Nearly 46 million Americans smoke traditional cigarettes. About 40 percent try to quit cold turkey or with other nicotine replacements each year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But unlike patches or gums, e-smokes operate in a legal gray area.

    The Food and Drug Administration and public health groups have sounded the alarm, saying they contain dangerous chemicals and are being marketed to children, and the federal agency has halted shipments of e-cigarettes at ports nationwide.

    Some sellers of e-cigarettes sued the FDA last year after the agency instructed customs officials to refuse entry of shipments into the U.S. A federal judge ruled that the FDA can't stop those shipments, saying the agency had overstepped its authority. The FDA appealed, and won a stay of that ruling, pending oral arguments that are set to begin next month.

    The FDA claims it has the authority to regulate e-cigarettes as drug-delivery devices, which would require proving — probably through expensive clinical trials — that they are safe and effective as a stop-smoking aid.

    E-cigarette sellers would like to see them regulated as a tobacco product, which would follow the same restrictions as traditional cigarettes and tobacco products.

    Several states have tried to ban the sale of the products. A leading distributor has agreed to halt sales in Oregon following a lawsuit filed by the state. And Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, D-N.J., also wrote to the FDA in March asking that e-cigarettes be taken off the market until they can be proven safe by the agency.

    Users and distributors say e-cigarettes address both the nicotine addiction and the behavioral aspects of smoking — the holding of the cigarette, the puffing, seeing the smoke come out and the hand motion — without the more than 4,000 chemicals found in a traditional cigarette.

    "When you're talking about a product that's essentially Russian roulette, and the alternative is much, much better, you can imagine they're pretty happy," said Jason Healy, the president of Charlotte, N.C., electronic cigarette maker Blu Cigs. "Up until e-cigs, there was quit or die."
    ...

    And Siegel said that while e-cigarettes haven't been studied in clinical trials, the current evidence is "sufficient to conclude that these products are much safer than smoking."

    "(The FDA) should be regulating it in a way that really allows the potential of the product to be realized rather than a way that just takes it off the market completely and puts an end to the possibility of what really could be a lifesaving product for many smokers," Siegel said.



    Notice there's no mention of SNUS ... YET!!

    That might be a good thing, though, at this time!
  • jagmanss
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    • Jul 2010
    • 12213

    #2
    True there is no mention of Snus yet, and is a good thing, But I'm sure they will get around to it eventually because it would seem the government and Food and Drug Administration and public health groups along with big tobacco companies would rather have the quit or die mentallity... They all don't want people to quit ciggs it seems....

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    • GoVegan
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 5603

      #3
      I consider myself somewhat of a liberal and just love movies by Michael Moore but I cannot honestly say that Ron Paul just keeps looking better every day!

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      • SnusoMatic
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 507

        #4
        Originally posted by jagmanss View Post
        True there is no mention of Snus yet, and is a good thing, But I'm sure they will get around to it eventually because it would seem the government and Food and Drug Administration and public health groups along with big tobacco companies would rather have the quit or die mentallity... They all don't want people to quit ciggs it seems....
        I agree..... i could guess why but forget why for a moment. a lot of what they do with tobacco regulation does makes it seem the government don't want people to quit smoking. this is off topic but my dad was in the Koran war and smoked cigarettes. not too long ago we were talking and he knew i quit smoking with snus. He told me that when they ate they passed out free cigarettes paid for by a cigarette company. he has had a stroke so he could have details mixed up. anyway, he was sure the cigs were paid for by the cig company. he said a lot more guys smoked when the war was over. just a fact tid bit

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        • snusgetter
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 10903

          #5
          Originally posted by SnusoMatic View Post
          I agree..... i could guess why but forget why for a moment. a lot of what they do with tobacco regulation does makes it seem the government don't want people to quit smoking. this is off topic but my dad was in the Koran war and smoked cigarettes. not too long ago we were talking and he knew i quit smoking with snus. He told me that when they ate they passed out free cigarettes paid for by a cigarette company. he has had a stroke so he could have details mixed up. anyway, he was sure the cigs were paid for by the cig company. he said a lot more guys smoked when the war was over. just a fact tid bit

          Have no clue who actually paid for the cigs, but they were handed out to every grunt:

          "During World War I and World War II, cigarettes were rationed to soldiers. During the Viet Nam War, cigarettes were included with C-ration meals. It was only in 1975 that the government quit putting cigarettes in military rations." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette

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          • tom502
            Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 8985

            #6
            The FDA's goal is to keep big pharma in big bucks.

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            • truthwolf1
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 2696

              #7
              Originally posted by tom502 View Post
              The FDA's goal is to keep big pharma in big bucks.
              Exactly!
              Imagine this was a big pharma product with a slick commercial with daddy sitting in the bleachers watching his daughter playing soccer with the slogan, "Switch to e-smoke"!
              this would then be a paid off, criminal politician, do gooder public awareness group non-issue.

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