Training and snus

[f. bandersnatch]

a. thanks for fact-checking that random article, dan.

b. you eat four meals a day kid?

[NorwegianKid]

I eat about 4 meals a day. Sometimes more.

As for the discussion about my age: I'm turning sixteen this month. Please keep it on-topic, premium. My age has nothing to do with my training schedule.

EDIT: And no, I'm not a professional athlete, but an athlete. Everyone who competes in organized sports is considered an athlete, by definition.

[Frosted]

I eat about 4 meals a day. Sometimes more.

As for the discussion about my age: I'm turning sixteen this month. Please keep it on-topic, premium. Whatever My age has nothing to do with my training schedule. I'm afraid it does - it's easier when you're younger

EDIT: And no, I'm not a professional athlete, but an athlete. Everyone who competes in organized sports is considered an athlete, by definition.

Again - whatever

[NorwegianKid]

Again - whatever

I just answered to the question and remarks that have been made during the discussion.

[Frosted]

I just answered to the question and remarks that have been made during the discussion.

Good.

[WickedKitchen]

I think that age has everything to do with your training schedule. I'm not attempting to help derail, but nicotine raises your blood pressure a little bit. It also raises your heart rate a little bit. Is this in itself bad? Not really because it's minute, but extend that over decades and one might reap ill effects (again, might) or couple those small rises with the increase vigorous exercise provides and it might be notable. Younger people have more flexible arteries than older people. It's this flexibility that enables them to handle changes in blood pressure much better and with far less effects than older people that may have a little harder arteries (primarily the aorta). When we age these arteries begin to get a little stiffer (some more than others) it forces the effects of the blood pressure back to the heart which is where the real damage occurs...damage you can't even feel until the arteries are very hard and by then surgery is the best option currently.

It's probably good practice to abstain from snus (or any other nicotine) for an hour or so before your workout. I am working on this myself...I usually only give it 20 minutes or so before or after. All this being said everyone is different. There are many factors that might contribute to the effects of nicotine or other tobacco and those also vary from person to person. Age will most likely trump all of them and while it might not make a hill of difference when your a teen it might make a difference as you approach 50.

LaZ...just messin' with you, man. Thought you'd get a laugh out of that one! Besides, the best thing about taking a shower with a 15 year old is when you slick their wet hair back they look like they're 11.

Ok Ok...bad joke. Back on topic:

Snus is the breakfast of champions!

[LaZeR]

LaZ...just messin' with you, man. Thought you'd get a laugh out of that one! Besides, the best thing about taking a shower with a 15 year old is when you slick their wet hair back they look like they're 11.

It's all good.

[NorwegianKid]

You missed my point. There is a link between age, training and nicotine. But when I said "my age has nothing to do with my schedule" my point were that I didn't want the discussion to be like "Ey nub u suxx u 15 y34arz old go listen to justin bieber" or "Stop snusing, young lad." I want the discussion to be about using snus as a participater (is that even a word?) in sports or muscle/stamina building. So any remarks about my age: let it be like WickedKitchen's post, not like Premium's.

WK, you said that I most likely won't notice any big downhill from use of snus during my teens, but when I get older, I might experience negative effects from the snus with training. Do you think that if I snus as a kid, my stamina will mess itself up as I grow older even if I quit in, let's say my twenties? Or do you think that the fact that snus is not yet proved to cause chronic higher heartrate will save me?

[LaZeR]

[WickedKitchen]

certainly not a doctor here...I've got no friggin' idea really.

I'm not gonna ridicule ya, dude. I started smoking @ 14. I remember once I went for a run of about 3 or 4 miles and on the end part of it I stopped and bought a pack of Camel Filters. It was hot and I was sweating. The guy behind the counter said to me "You won't be running like that much longer if you smoke these things." I then would run almost all the way home and stop to smoke one in the woods before I got there. I never forgot that but at the time the pack cost 99 cents and it lasted me like two weeks.

I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. at all. unless of course you're training for the Olympics or something. I would surmise that even at that level nicotine could be a useful addition to a training regimen. I guess we could even argue the details until the cows come home and then send them back out 'cos we're not finished. But in all seriousness nicotine has legitimate uses in the world. Some people on this forum use it for a medical purpose. I wish I did...and wish I got some other medical stuff too but I digress.

I just like the shit. I liked tobacco from day one. I became an addict. Some would argue that I've always had that personality and perhaps I have. You'll quickly become an addict on 5/day so beware of that. snus is so easy to use and that lends itself to more. Yum. Jesus, this post is way too long. I'm rambling...heh...medical grade.

[GENERAL BILLY]

Snus is a bad habit. A relatively benign one, but a bad habit. It doesn't make any sense to utilize it in a training regimen regardless of your age.

[f. bandersnatch]

That sounds like a boxer's training regimen circa 1850:

A young man of athletic disposition and general fervency that wishes to engage in matches of boxing prowess should eat no less than four meals a day and imbibe in enough mouth tobacco to keep him alert, but no so much as to unsettle his stomach to his own hindrance, and it is of the utmost importance that he soak his knuckles in lye and horse urine at least twice a day.

[Jwalker]

Don't high school kids in the U.S. who play hockey, baseball, Golf (not a sport? Not one where you need to be in peak condition) have a higher rate of dip tobacco use? I'd expect norway/sweden etc. to be the same.

[NorwegianKid]

That sounds like a boxer's training regimen circa 1850:

A young man of athletic disposition and general fervency that wishes to engage in matches of boxing prowess should eat no less than four meals a day and imbibe in enough mouth tobacco to keep him alert, but no so much as to unsettle his stomach to his own hindrance, and it is of the utmost importance that he soak his knuckles in lye and horse urine at least twice a day.

True, expect for the horse urine part. Hahah.

Jwalker: over 50% of the national football-team in Norway uses snus on a daily basis. That's kinda funny, considering how much the norwegian government tries to say: "Snus is just as bad as cigarettes" blablabla

[Jwalker]

Shut one in two, the closest we have is like 30 percent of major league baseball players use dip.