snus and heart disease

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  • Paladinx
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 71

    #1

    snus and heart disease

    I know people like to be a little clearheaded with things they do etc. and believe the studies and reports that are most appealing. but there was a huge study done on over 100,000 construction workers that said snus posed a 40 percent risk for death and cardiovascular disease.

    Now i KNOW people are going to say well that study is old, other studies have contradicted it etc etc. I am not saying that study was perfect, or 100 percent correct. What I am saying is they used the same sample base, same type of people, facing similar variables, observed them for a long period of time, and most importantly it was a huge sample of people. They saw a connection. No matter what the reasons are, or factors, maybe the tsna levels were higher back than, whatever. What I would get out of that study, is that they did see a connection. and I would not dismiss it 100 percent. I would take it under consideration just as much as the positive studies. I would also keep in mind that a lot of the newer studies have been partially or fully funded by parties interested in selling snus. No one sponsors or supports a study that will negatively impact them. Statistics is more of an art form than a science. There is all kinds of ways to retrieve analyze and present data in a way to convey a pre-determined point.

    The moral of the study is not to argue with anyone. Its just to use a little common sense. and no matter what you believe, Just acknowledge that too much of anything can be harmful. And dont dismiss everything in light of much smaller newer studies. take everything into consideration is all. Hope i dont get attacked now for not saying something 100 percent positive.
  • artsnus
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 71

    #2
    I googled it and found this study
    http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...00006/art00012
    which indicates there is not connection. Could you please provide the source of the study you mentioned?

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    • chossy
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 242

      #3
      I think you are referring to this study
      http://ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=9...0&newsdep=9600

      I only found it in swedish, but I think it´s available in english also

      - Om 10 000 snusande men icke-rökande män följs i tio år kommer enligt våra data åtta eller nio att få bukspottkörtelcancer jämfört med fyra bland dem som varken röker eller snusar. Men 9 991 drabbas inte, så oddsen är inte så dåliga, säger han.

      Translation

      If 10.000 snusing but not smoking men are followed for ten years, according to our data, eight or nine of them will get pancreatic cancer compared to four among those who use no tobacco at all. But 9 991 do not get pancreatic cancer, so the odds not that bad, he says.

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      • Paladinx
        Member
        • May 2009
        • 71

        #4
        the study i am referring to is I believe, bolinder et al. 1994.

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