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  • Ettas
    New Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 13

    Websites with TSNA levels?

    Just lookin really for the brands with the lowest levels. I've searched alot and only found usually places showing the "2.8" Ettan one.
  • chainsnuser
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1388

    #2
    Hi Ettas,

    the only usable list, I've found so far (unfortunately only manufacturer-related) is:
    http://www.slv.se/upload/dokument/Ra...enskt_snus.pdf

    Despite of everybody talking about TSNA's there seems to be very little scientific work.

    You might already know these ones, which also cover american products:
    http://www.smokeless.de/news/24_09_0...oist_Snuff.pdf
    http://www.smokersonly.org/product_f..._specific.html

    IMHO, the differences in TSNA's between snus-brands or manufacturers are negligible. Anyhow, it's quite interesting that the 'good old' Swedish Match/Gothiatek- brands with their market share of 95% and offensive health-related promotion are not the ones with the lowest levels.

    Cheers!

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    • mwood72

      #3
      Originally posted by chainsnuser
      Hi Ettas,

      the only usable list, I've found so far (unfortunately only manufacturer-related) is:
      http://www.slv.se/upload/dokument/Ra...enskt_snus.pdf

      Despite of everybody talking about TSNA's there seems to be very little scientific work.

      You might already know these ones, which also cover american products:
      http://www.smokeless.de/news/24_09_0...oist_Snuff.pdf
      http://www.smokersonly.org/product_f..._specific.html

      IMHO, the differences in TSNA's between snus-brands or manufacturers are negligible. Anyhow, it's quite interesting that the 'good old' Swedish Match/Gothiatek- brands with their market share of 95% and offensive health-related promotion are not the ones with the lowest levels.

      Cheers!
      Chainsnuser - Don't the Swedish government have a maximum TSNA level for Snus that all producers have to abide by? I remember Swedish Match wern't supposed to have the lowest levels even though they would have you think they do from their Gothiatek standard. Would you know where F&L stand being as it's my favourite at the moment?

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      • chainsnuser
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1388

        #4
        Hi mwood72,

        as I'm neither an expert on this topic nor fully understand swedish, you should read the following with caution.

        After some research on the swedish state-run www.slv.se - website, I haven't found any other regulations for snus than regarding the

        - hygiene of the production facilities
        - allowed aditives (exspecially aromas)
        - declaration of contents

        There are some studies but obviously no regulations for maximum TSNA-contents.

        Even Swedish Match says "In absence of legislative regulation we have created our own model (the GothiaTek®standard)." Source: http://www.gothiatek.com/templates/s...spx?page_id=69

        So I assume, the low TSNA levels in snus are primarily a result of the traditional manufacturing process of snus, without a fire curing or fermentation of the tobacco.

        A table, including TSNA contents of F&L-snusbrands, might be unavailable on the net. I haven't found one.

        Cheers!

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        • mwood72

          #5
          I used Systran to translate some of the F&L website and got the below. Am I right in thinking that TSNAs are lowered through pastuerization? If so maybe all Swedish Snus producers have to do this to meet with the food laws?

          "Stages 2: preparation
          Depending on which of our different snuff we will produce, chooses we between five and eight flour types of different type and coarse game. The flour mixture is poured afterwards over in a mixer along with waters and salted. The water gives the snuff its humidity and the salt functions exactly as in cooking as a taste carrier.

          Then, the snuff is pasteurized, dvs the mixture been called up, so that possible bacteria die. At this team, the content begins in the mixer to compare snuff, but the mixture is sour and therefore adds we soda in order to increase the pH value.

          About the is a taste thickset snuff we produce is the also in this stage as taste - and aroma matters are added. The can be natural oils from lemon, bergamott, aniseed or salmiak"


          Zero- Do you have a take on this? I recall you knowing a lot of the science behind it.

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          • Zero
            Member
            • May 2006
            • 1522

            #6
            The bacteria, I think, cause the fermentation which normally occurs in US/Indian/etc chewing tobacco - the fermentation leading to the TSNAs. Pasteurising prevents that fermentation from happening. As for TSNA content, I've only seen a few snus brands prior; the links up there ^^ are new to me and the best sources I've seen yet.

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            • scarecrow
              New Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 4

              #7
              I tried two cans of skoal berry blend, then got a infection that made my cheek swell up and had to go on antibiotics, not a very good first impression of tabacco. Long story short I did a bunch of my own research for safer tobacco products with low TSNA/Carcinogens as i'm sure a lot of you people have done. I started using Wise snus and after found this on their website.

              http://www.njette.se/press_e.html

              In short it states that it has patent for the lowest level of "tobacco-specific nitrosamines than Nicorette chewing gum". However it doesn't label how much it has or doesn't. I do know that Nicorette has about .002 total of NNN a carcinogen.

              Link is here:http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:SIi3eRec5I4J:
              https://www.starscientific.com/404/s...lnk&cd=2&gl=us

              Don't know if that helps, but that's all I have for new research. BLEH! :shock:

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              • chainsnuser
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1388

                #8
                Interesting informations!

                May I correct the link? http://www.starscientific.com/404/st...0tsna%20in.pdf

                Cheers!

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