New evidence suggests all tobacco contains dihydrogen monoxide.

[Ansel]

Traces of dihydrogen monoxide are said to be found in all types of tobacco including snus and even in trace amounts it allows the possibility for the tobacco to be deadly.

:-(

[sgreger1]

That's it, if i've ever seen a reason to quit snus than THIS IS IT. I'm not down to put some corrosive shit like Dihydrogen Monoxide in my mouth. Did you know that DHM is found in 90% of tumors? That's no coincidence...

[Frosted]

Must go to another planet where there's less of it.

[whalen]

It is a universal solvent also!

[Thunder_Snus]

its the main component in acid rain and is strong enough to put out fire.

[phantom]

Before we begin we need to clarify some scientific basics. Firstly, as covered in “Coffee is not a safe alternative to smoking” everything is made up of chemicals, and these chemicals in turn are made of atoms. Water is Dihydrogen monoxide, made up two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. The water you actually drink contains a lot more than just H2O.

The following is a list of allowable chemical containments in safe drinking water according to the EPA: Antimony, arsenic, asbestos, barium, beryllium, cadmium, chromium, copper, cyanide, fluoride, lead, mercury, nitrate, nitrite, selenium and thallium. And that’s just the inorganic chemicals. There are another 52 organic chemicals and 4 radionuclides allowable. Before anybody starts freaking out let me illiterate: It doesn’t matter that the chemicals are present, what matters is the dosage. In sufficient levels most (if not all) can cause human harm (if not death), while at low levels they are completely harmless.

We are all taught in high school about the different states of matter: solid, liquid and gas. Any chemical can exist in any on of these states, depending on how much energy is applied. Heat ice and it turns to water. Keep heating it and it turns to steam.

Now we can begin the real lesson.

aAtomize: Convert (a substance) into very fine particles or droplets: “the CO2 depressurized, atomizing the paint into a mist of even-size particles”.

Vaporization is the transition of matter from a solid or liquid phase into a gaseous (or vapor) phase. Water boiling into steam is an example of vaporization.

Combustion: The process of burning something: “the combustion of fossil fuels”.

The difference between each is whether or not the chemicals change their state, and this is dictated by the amount of energy (heat) applied.

The first two are quite similar with the only real difference being particule size. An everyday example of atomizing is when you apply perfume or cologne. Either through compression or a pump spray the liquid is reduced to a fine spray. With vaporizing, enough heat is applied to change the liquid to a gas, thus the particle size is much smaller.

In both cases the chemicals may change state, but there is not enough energy (in most cases) to change the actual chemical structure. Propylene glycol whether atomized in perfume or vaporized in an electronic cigarette, is still propylene glycol.

Combustion is a whole difference ball game. When you burn a substance, the very ct of combustion creates literally thousands of “new” or “additional” chemicals, even if many of them are extremely short lived.

This is where the 4,000-10,000 chemicals number for tobacco smoke comes from. There aren’t this many chemicals present in tobacco itself, the vast majority are created by the combustion process itself.

Phenol, toluene, naphthalene, the benzene group, and hydrazines. These chemicals are all considered possible (or confirmed) carcinogens and are all created as a result of burning tobacco. Yet all of these are not actually produced by the act of burning the tobacco itself -they are the result of burning sugar, of which an average cigarettes contains 20%! Over cook any food that contains sugar and chances are you will produce these same “toxic chemicals” in your own kitchen.

It’s the act of combustion that makes tobacco so dangerous. This is why smokeless tobacco products are responsible for a significantly lower risk of cancer that smoking. All that is left is the Tobacco Specific Nitrosamines (TSNAs). These are found in high level in chewing tobacco (which has been proven to carry an increased risk of oral cancer) while they are found in much lower levels in Swedish Snus, electronic cigarettes and pharmaceutical nicotine replacement therapies (which have been shown not to carry any significant increase in cancer risk).

It really doesn’t matter if people consume tobacco (or nicotine) products, as long as they aren’t being burnt. The sooner more people can be educated on this simple scientific principal, the sooner the public will realize their health authorities have been either blatently lying, or at best telling half truths for years – all in the name of “public health”.

Once this happens, then we might see some real change. Until then people will be “protected” from tobacco alternatives and just keep needlessly dying.

The fact is their blood is on our governments hands.

[Thunder_Snus]

Before we begin we need to clarify some scientific basics. Firstly, as covered in “Coffee is not a safe alternative to smoking” everything is made up of chemicals, and these chemicals in turn are made of atoms. Water is Dihydrogen monoxide, made up two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. The water you actually drink contains a lot more than just H2O.

The following is a list of allowable chemical containments in safe drinking water according to the EPA: Antimony, arsenic, asbestos, barium, beryllium, cadmium, chromium, copper, cyanide, fluoride, lead, mercury, nitrate, nitrite, selenium and thallium. And that’s just the inorganic chemicals. There are another 52 organic chemicals and 4 radionuclides allowable. Before anybody starts freaking out let me illiterate: It doesn’t matter that the chemicals are present, what matters is the dosage. In sufficient levels most (if not all) can cause human harm (if not death), while at low levels they are completely harmless.

We are all taught in high school about the different states of matter: solid, liquid and gas. Any chemical can exist in any on of these states, depending on how much energy is applied. Heat ice and it turns to water. Keep heating it and it turns to steam.

Now we can begin the real lesson.

aAtomize: Convert (a substance) into very fine particles or droplets: “the CO2 depressurized, atomizing the paint into a mist of even-size particles”.

Vaporization is the transition of matter from a solid or liquid phase into a gaseous (or vapor) phase. Water boiling into steam is an example of vaporization.

Combustion: The process of burning something: “the combustion of fossil fuels”.

The difference between each is whether or not the chemicals change their state, and this is dictated by the amount of energy (heat) applied.

The first two are quite similar with the only real difference being particule size. An everyday example of atomizing is when you apply perfume or cologne. Either through compression or a pump spray the liquid is reduced to a fine spray. With vaporizing, enough heat is applied to change the liquid to a gas, thus the particle size is much smaller.

In both cases the chemicals may change state, but there is not enough energy (in most cases) to change the actual chemical structure. Propylene glycol whether atomized in perfume or vaporized in an electronic cigarette, is still propylene glycol.

Combustion is a whole difference ball game. When you burn a substance, the very ct of combustion creates literally thousands of “new” or “additional” chemicals, even if many of them are extremely short lived.

This is where the 4,000-10,000 chemicals number for tobacco smoke comes from. There aren’t this many chemicals present in tobacco itself, the vast majority are created by the combustion process itself.

Phenol, toluene, naphthalene, the benzene group, and hydrazines. These chemicals are all considered possible (or confirmed) carcinogens and are all created as a result of burning tobacco. Yet all of these are not actually produced by the act of burning the tobacco itself -they are the result of burning sugar, of which an average cigarettes contains 20%! Over cook any food that contains sugar and chances are you will produce these same “toxic chemicals” in your own kitchen.

It’s the act of combustion that makes tobacco so dangerous. This is why smokeless tobacco products are responsible for a significantly lower risk of cancer that smoking. All that is left is the Tobacco Specific Nitrosamines (TSNAs). These are found in high level in chewing tobacco (which has been proven to carry an increased risk of oral cancer) while they are found in much lower levels in Swedish Snus, electronic cigarettes and pharmaceutical nicotine replacement therapies (which have been shown not to carry any significant increase in cancer risk).

It really doesn’t matter if people consume tobacco (or nicotine) products, as long as they aren’t being burnt. The sooner more people can be educated on this simple scientific principal, the sooner the public will realize their health authorities have been either blatently lying, or at best telling half truths for years – all in the name of “public health”.

Once this happens, then we might see some real change. Until then people will be “protected” from tobacco alternatives and just keep needlessly dying.

The fact is their blood is on our governments hands.

I think you missed the point

[Mdisch]

I think you missed the point

I'm with Thunder on this one.
Dihydrogen Monoxide - basically, Dihydrogen Monoxide = 2 Hydrogen 1 oxygen = H20.

[Thunder_Snus]

I'm with Thunder on this one.
Dihydrogen Monoxide - basically, Dihydrogen Monoxide = 2 Hydrogen 1 oxygen = H20.

Dihyrogen Monoxide is another name for water, its a clever trick. It was first used by some child in i believe california as part of a science experiment to see if people would blindly follow his idea of banning "dihyrogen monoxide" because it was found in tumours, acid rain, etc. And sure enough the parents of the school voted to ban it. Since that a lot of people use his general idea to "troll" on the internet. This thread is an example, "dihydrogen monoxide is in all tobacco and can be found in (insert bad things that have water in them)"

[sgreger1]

Before we begin we need to clarify some scientific basics. Firstly, as covered in “Coffee is not a safe alternative to smoking” everything is made up of chemicals, and these chemicals in turn are made of atoms. Water is Dihydrogen monoxide, made up two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. The water you actually drink contains a lot more than just H2O.

The following is a list of allowable chemical containments in safe drinking water according to the EPA: Antimony, arsenic, asbestos, barium, beryllium, cadmium, chromium, copper, cyanide, fluoride, lead, mercury, nitrate, nitrite, selenium and thallium. And that’s just the inorganic chemicals. There are another 52 organic chemicals and 4 radionuclides allowable. Before anybody starts freaking out let me illiterate: It doesn’t matter that the chemicals are present, what matters is the dosage. In sufficient levels most (if not all) can cause human harm (if not death), while at low levels they are completely harmless.

We are all taught in high school about the different states of matter: solid, liquid and gas. Any chemical can exist in any on of these states, depending on how much energy is applied. Heat ice and it turns to water. Keep heating it and it turns to steam.

Now we can begin the real lesson.

aAtomize: Convert (a substance) into very fine particles or droplets: “the CO2 depressurized, atomizing the paint into a mist of even-size particles”.

Vaporization is the transition of matter from a solid or liquid phase into a gaseous (or vapor) phase. Water boiling into steam is an example of vaporization.

Combustion: The process of burning something: “the combustion of fossil fuels”.

The difference between each is whether or not the chemicals change their state, and this is dictated by the amount of energy (heat) applied.

The first two are quite similar with the only real difference being particule size. An everyday example of atomizing is when you apply perfume or cologne. Either through compression or a pump spray the liquid is reduced to a fine spray. With vaporizing, enough heat is applied to change the liquid to a gas, thus the particle size is much smaller.

In both cases the chemicals may change state, but there is not enough energy (in most cases) to change the actual chemical structure. Propylene glycol whether atomized in perfume or vaporized in an electronic cigarette, is still propylene glycol.

Combustion is a whole difference ball game. When you burn a substance, the very ct of combustion creates literally thousands of “new” or “additional” chemicals, even if many of them are extremely short lived.

This is where the 4,000-10,000 chemicals number for tobacco smoke comes from. There aren’t this many chemicals present in tobacco itself, the vast majority are created by the combustion process itself.

Phenol, toluene, naphthalene, the benzene group, and hydrazines. These chemicals are all considered possible (or confirmed) carcinogens and are all created as a result of burning tobacco. Yet all of these are not actually produced by the act of burning the tobacco itself -they are the result of burning sugar, of which an average cigarettes contains 20%! Over cook any food that contains sugar and chances are you will produce these same “toxic chemicals” in your own kitchen.

It’s the act of combustion that makes tobacco so dangerous. This is why smokeless tobacco products are responsible for a significantly lower risk of cancer that smoking. All that is left is the Tobacco Specific Nitrosamines (TSNAs). These are found in high level in chewing tobacco (which has been proven to carry an increased risk of oral cancer) while they are found in much lower levels in Swedish Snus, electronic cigarettes and pharmaceutical nicotine replacement therapies (which have been shown not to carry any significant increase in cancer risk).

It really doesn’t matter if people consume tobacco (or nicotine) products, as long as they aren’t being burnt. The sooner more people can be educated on this simple scientific principal, the sooner the public will realize their health authorities have been either blatently lying, or at best telling half truths for years – all in the name of “public health”.

Once this happens, then we might see some real change. Until then people will be “protected” from tobacco alternatives and just keep needlessly dying.

The fact is their blood is on our governments hands.

Woooooooooooshhhhhhhhh...

[sgreger1]

Dihyrogen Monoxide is another name for water, its a clever trick. It was first used by some child in i believe california as part of a science experiment to see if people would blindly follow his idea of banning "dihyrogen monoxide" because it was found in tumours, acid rain, etc. And sure enough the parents of the school voted to ban it. Since that a lot of people use his general idea to "troll" on the internet. This thread is an example, "dihydrogen monoxide is in all tobacco and can be found in (insert bad things that have water in them)"

As made famous by Penn & Teller's "bullsh!t". They went around to a bunch of liberal protests and stuff and asked them to signa petition banning DHM because it is a harmfull solvent and in acid rain etc, trying to play like it was the oil companies causing it etc, and everyone signed the petition lolol.

[AtreyuKun]

Dur hur.

[Thunder_Snus]

As made famous by Penn & Teller's "bullsh!t". They went around to a bunch of liberal protests and stuff and asked them to signa petition banning DHM because it is a harmfull solvent and in acid rain etc, trying to play like it was the oil companies causing it etc, and everyone signed the petition lolol.

yep, thats the world for you

[Nuusku]

I reject your reality and substitute it with my own!

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

New evidence shows that in milk you can have brucelos new evidence suggest in chicken can be found salmonella microorganism, and in cows brain - mad bacterias, and if you do not brush your teeth they will foll down and you can suck milk , chicken meet , and cow brains,