I'm in need of funds for Laboratory Tests

[precious007]

Govegan,

My father in law doesn't have insurance and ended up owing $19,000 for one night in the ER for chest pains.

That is pure madness, $19,000 for a night in the ER. Jesus Christ, at least I didn't have to pay for the ER a few days ago when I ended up there feeling like crap.

I can't agree more that exercise, diet, and talking short walks every day would help loads, it does help anyone with any given condition or even the healthy people. I will start by just doing that, and in fact I am trying to stay as healthy as possible, including the diet. I have recently stopped eating bread (and eating rice, potatoes instead), stopped eating canned food or anything that comes packed, I concentrate more on fish/chicken and veggies/fruits.

I also gave up smoking, it's over a month now and only use snus twice a day.

I am not sayign that I don't agree with headers, sure he knows what he's talking about and over the years I have tried everything for anxiety, didn't really concentrate on meditation. I have been feeling like crap for 7 years so imagine that I have tried lots of methods to get over it, but it seems that my health condition gets worse at times then it gets better and so on I can't understand what is going on that is why I am trying to find another route especially when I cannot function.

The problem, and it's a big problem is that currently I live in a state that is damned with corruption everywhere, I mean everyone is corrupt and definitely the medical area is THE most corrupt these days. Without pushing serious money on the table (even with insurance you can stay sick for years or even die) there are a lot of people dying yes. That's our system.

I have to pull the money out of my pocket and that is why I am trying to fund raise some money right now when I am basically unable to work anymore, or get a job because I have to pull everything out of my pocket to see a doctor. It's a joke if you go to the hospital or my family doctor they laugh of you or even worse they come up with so stupid diagnosis you just can't believe it. One thing is for sure, and yes I am paranoid about it because it's been 7 long year snow.... I don't wan to swallow pills like crazy for anxiety for example or arthritis if I don't have these illneses, if there is another underlying cause to this lets assume Lyme then why would I swallow like crazy such dangerous drugs all day and never get better, hope you guys understand what I mean.

For some reason, my diagnosed conditions which are arthritis, sinusitis, anxiety, depression, cervical spondilosis are all HIGHLY linked to LYME disease, every single Lyme patient has at one point in their life been diagnosed with these condition. It's really sad that in Romania, and not only but in the US as well many people are misdiagnosed and they're taking medication for illneses that they don't have. There are millions of cases and I don't want to be a victim for ever just because the doctors are giving a damn about me.

Alex

[BlueSaint]

If you got an red ring on the skin from the tick it might be Lyme, but doesnt Lyme go away by itself after a while if it's not TBE?

[lxskllr]

If you got an red ring on the skin from the tick it might be Lyme, but doesnt Lyme go away by itself after a while if it's not TBE?

You always have Lyme, treated or not. I haven't studied it, but I think treatments just knock it down for awhile, but like herpes, it can come back again in the future.

[GoVegan]

You always have Lyme, treated or not. I haven't studied it, but I think treatments just knock it down for awhile, but like herpes, it can come back again in the future.

Interesting comparison - at least you get to have sex with herpes though.

[whalen]

While you guys have those check books out, I need funds to help me with my TAD disorder! Insurance refuses to cover it, and no copay either.

[Crow]

Is this lithia water easy to find in stores?

I haven't found any stores that carry lithia water, but I've tried the water in Lithia Park. This video describes it best:

[sgreger1]

I have to agree with Heders here. I think the chances of having lyme are remote, and the likelyhood of it being caused by anxiety is high. Why does the test cost so much?

Normally, if the doctor thinks you need the test than they will get you one. It appears as though the doctors dont have any reason to believe it is lyme. I would try to not worry about it and learn to deal with the anxiety, as it can be debilitating if you allow it to convince you that you are sick.

[charmando]

have you gotten a vitamin hair analysis. I think you should start small to rule out any deficiencies. I know anxiety and encephalitis causes those same symptoms. Could be viral. check your liver function. lyme doesn't seem too likely.

[precious007]

@Bluesaint, Sgregrer and everyone

Thanks, there are all different opinions so far of what it might be but honest to be no one can know so far until some lab tests are done. I don't recall having the rash Bluesaint, I've been been over a decade ago and been feeling ill for 7 years, and even if I have been bit by ticks (which did happen for sure because I remember the exact day) only 20% of the people do get a rash.

I have had strange rashes on my body since then but nothing like a tick rash.

@lx

Yes, you seem to have the correct information on Lyme. Once you're infected it doesn't go away by itself in fact as time passes it only causes more damage to the central nervous system, skin, bones, heart and overall well being. The treatment consists of antibiotics and vitamins mainly to increase the immune system.

Alex

[Bigblue1]

The treatment consists of antibiotics and vitamins mainly to increase the immune system.

Alex

Surely generic antibiotics and vitamins to treat and see if your symptoms subside is cheaper than these tests, I mean if there's not a tried and true cure just a band aid, why not just put on the band aid and hope for the best? Also if the tests are positive your just going to incur these costs anyways.........

[truthwolf1]

[precious007]

Surely generic antibiotics and vitamins to treat and see if your symptoms subside is cheaper than these tests, I mean if there's not a tried and true cure just a band aid, why not just put on the band aid and hope for the best? Also if the tests are positive your just going to incur these costs anyways.........

bigblue, I can't take "generic antibiotics" by myself without having a doctor to prescribe them.

And as far as I know, in Romania antibiotics only go on prescription, you can't buy them all by yourself. Plus if it is some kind of serious infection such as Lyme or any virus from borrelia family, then generic antibiotics don't help.

I cannot start any type of treatment unless I see a doctor, you can even do more harm than good by going this route.

There is no cure on the internet, seek local counseling, soon, is my advice.

I know that is what I am trying to do, to see a professional doctor and see what they say. Your average neurologist, psychiatrist and the doctors in the ER say there's nothing wrong with me.

In Romania the medical system is so ****ed up, they don't give a damn about patients. And many of them end up being treated for other illneses because they're misdiagnosed and only worsen their condition. I have seen doctors in the past but never considered seeing a LLmd as they call it in US.


Alex

[Premium Parrots]

bigblue, I can't take "generic antibiotics" by myself without having a doctor to prescribe them.

And as far as I know, in Romania antibiotics only go on prescription, you can't buy them all by yourself. Plus if it is some kind of serious infection such as Lyme or any virus from borrelia family, then generic antibiotics don't help.

I cannot start any type of treatment unless I see a doctor, you can even do more harm than good by going this route.



I know that is what I am trying to do, to see a professional doctor and see what they say. Your average neurologist, psychiatrist and the doctors in the ER say there's nothing wrong with me.

In Romania the medical system is so ****ed up, they don't give a damn about patients. And many of them end up being treated for other illneses because they're misdiagnosed and only worsen their condition. I have seen doctors in the past but never considered seeing a LLmd as they call it in US.


Alex

I'd go with the diagnosis from doctors you have already seen. They are doctors and you've seen several of them that all say the same thing.


The medical system is ****ed up in every country. I'm sure Romania isn't any different. Deal with it.

Get a pocket full of Valium and chill out dude.

[Frosted]

I'd go with the diagnosis from doctors you have already seen. They are doctors and you've seen several of them that all say the same thing.

This^


Beware the internet - for every symptom you think you're experiencing, the internet will bring you to hundreds of horrific different maladies. Don't go there.

[heders]

I'd go with the diagnosis from doctors you have already seen. They are doctors and you've seen several of them that all say the same thing.


The medical system is ****ed up in every country. I'm sure Romania isn't any different. Deal with it.

Get a pocket full of Valium and chill out dude.

Exactly! The doctors are not trying to fool you. If they say you are fine, you are. They are not conspiring against you.

This is an outtake from the Linden Method which I would like you to read:


"STOP VISITING EVERY PRACTITIONER YOU CAN FIND
Ok this sounds simplistic but it is very, very important. We need to prove to your conscious mind that a doctor’s reassurance is not required, that no anxiety sufferer needs a doctor in order to be well again; we need to break the anxious cycle which perpetuates your anxiety by constantly reminding the subconscious mind that reassurance is needed. The subconscious mind requires ‘reprogramming’ in order to break down the anxious instincts or habits which drive you to need reassurance at all.

If your doctor has diagnosed anxiety disorder, that is all the information you need. Returning to the doctor many times won’t change that! Whilst diagnosis is important, the treatment received is paramount and this Method is THE treatment! The ONLY way to conquer this Pillar is to ‘practice’ the new ‘non anxious’ habit. The more you consciously prevent yourself from seeking reassurance from doctors or anyone else that you approach, the less you will need to do so. Very soon the neural pathways in the brain that created the old, anxious and negative habits will be obsolete and the new habits will take over.

Think back for a moment, how often have you visited a doctor since your anxiety developed? Probably quite a few times. Chances are that apart from writing prescriptions for medication or making referrals to other practitioners such as a psychologist or psychiatrist, all the doctor did was offer reassurance that you are not ‘ill’ (some doctors don’t even do that!). OK, so if that is all you are going to get from a doctor ... why go? I mean, logically now, haven’t you had enough reassurance? You could go to the doctor a million times and get the same treatment, answers and ‘shrug offs’ every time ... what’s the point?

DOCTORS AREN’T REQUIRED!!! STOP THIS ANXIOUS HABIT
NOW!


You might ask yourself “how on earth can this be done without creating more fear and anxiety?” Diversion! Every time a negative thought pops up or a new experience or symptom appears, disempower it; do not allow the thought or sensation to etch new, or reinforce old, habitual behavior. The moment your anxious feelings appear, do something else. Put loud music on, sing along with it, telephone someone (but don’t mention your anxiety). Do this until the symptoms subside but DO NOT contact anyone for reas-
surance. See Chapter 5 on diversion. The anxiety response is being switched off by practicing this. Persevere and recovery is inevitable. By continuing this anxious behavior, you are practising being anxious and your recovery may never come. This pillar is only valid for anxiety disorder issues. Of course, if you experience any other problems it is advisable to visit your doctor, just don’t discuss your anxiety.


“The fearless are merely fearless. People who act in spite of their fear
are truly brave.”
James A. LaFond-Lewis "