2012

[Chigger]

[QUOTE=Premium Parrots;324075]when the shit goes down all you need is firearms and some bullets. With those you can get just about anything you need.....even more bullets.

/QUOTE]

Yep, and if the grid is fried the nice thing is firearms don't require any electricity. Hmmm, neither does snus, we might just survive it after all....

[CoderGuy]

Great movie, great book, I highly recommend both. Especially if you have kids the father / son aspect of the movie is another whole level of story beyond the post-apocolyptic theme.

It was. It was one of those movies where afterward there is no conversation for a while and then everyone starts engaging. Viggo Mortensen was magnificent in his role. I believed the kid was actually his son.

[Chigger]

It was. It was one of those movies where afterward there is no conversation for a while and then everyone starts engaging. Viggo Mortensen was magnificent in his role. I believed the kid was actually his son.

Its not his son but they had enough chemistry to make it believable. the kid in the movie is Kodi Smit-McPhee http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2240346/

[Chigger]

If anyone wants to read the full report by the National Academy of Sciences.... http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?re...d=12507&page=1


Its over 300 pages long but all the details are there. One of the problems with doing anything about this is that it is a high impact low frequency event. If the public is not aware of the problem there is little incentive for government to spend money on hardening infrastructure or better forecasting when it is cash strapped for fixing other things that are immediate and obvious problems.

[dreed2]

Keep a low profile.

Edit: When the you-know-what hits the fan, you don't want to be the guy living in the mansion with a Mercedes Benz.

[CoderGuy]

If anyone wants to read the full report by the National Academy of Sciences.... http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?re...d=12507&page=1


Its over 300 pages long but all the details are there. One of the problems with doing anything about this is that it is a high impact low frequency event. If the public is not aware of the problem there is little incentive for government to spend money on hardening infrastructure or better forecasting when it is cash strapped for fixing other things that are immediate and obvious problems.

Great find. In the same special I watched they talked about the magnetic poles flipping. They said it happens regularly (every 300k years or so, last one was almost 800k years ago so we are overdue). The main thing they said about the flip was while it is flipping our magnetic field is greatly reduced, and it is at that time that a large solar storm would have devastating effects as our protection mechanism is down.

Here is some good information on that event: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...magneticfield/

[Simplysnus]

I am familiar with weaponry, my wife is now interested in learning to shoot, so that's a bonus as well. Assuming she doesn't just shoot me, lol.

[Simplysnus]

Great find. In the same special I watched they talked about the magnetic poles flipping. They said it happens regularly (every 300k years or so, last one was almost 800k years ago so we are overdue). The main thing they said about the flip was while it is flipping our magnetic field is greatly reduced, and it is at that time that a large solar storm would have devastating effects as our protection mechanism is down.

Here is some good information on that event: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...magneticfield/

Yeah, that would be the suck.

[WickedKitchen]

I surmise that if it were to take out all or most of the substations it would be nearly a decade before things got back to normal. There would be military in our streets. I wouldn't be there. I'd head for the hills too. Fishing and trapping are a hassle, but very doable. I do have a plan to obtain a firearm but I've had that plan for a while now. The biggest problem is that all of the major electrical equipment isn't made in this country anymore. That's when the chickens could really come home to roost.

Get out of the city, that's for sure. Has anyone watched that show "The Colony"? I think it's pretty shitty but has some interesting points to it. Bring seeds too. Lots of 'em. A dog would be a good idea but cats? They'd only be good for a meal or two. The big problem would be preserving the meat. A smoker I think would be the best idea. I'd go for a freshwater stream. Diarrhea for sure but I think you'd adjust all right. I'd be most scared for my kids. The big thing is shelter. In the Northeast that would be a big problem in only a few months. I certainly wouldn't be able to drive far enough south so that wouldn't be a problem.

I've thought about this stuff plenty. I don't have a kit ready but I've run through the items I would definitely need. I know I still need more and the gun is paramount. This post is wicked disjointed...wine...I will listen to that podcast though. thanks.

[sgreger1]

I've been watching this story as well. There is a recent episode of "The Universe" that is on magnetic storms and the possible effect to society.

Its not just the grid and satellites getting fried, its all the systems that rely on those things. You could lose refrigeration emergency services, medical services, communications. Could turn into one heck of a crapstorm because we have become so reliant on technology. The 1859 event caused a few wtf moments from telegraph operations and northern lights visible in Cuba and Hawaii. But a similar event today could be big trouble.

I'll definitely be checking out that podcast. I like that kind of stuff and I'm always looking for interesting podcast to listen to anyway. I can't say I'm much of a prepper, I'd probably GTFO out the city and head for the country and rely on my hunting experience for food. I wouldn't be so worried about being able to live off the land, more that society would go bonkers and descend in the anarchy.

Dude its my favorite podcast and im not a prepper either. The guy is interesting, he has a lot of cool tips, and hundreds of shows. Its the best podcast on the subject and its not dry or "end of the world" status either. My dad turned me onto it, i listen to him cause i learn lots of shit and hes interesting to listen to. Listen to a few shows and im sure youll learn something relevant to you. Or at the minimum you will learn something that may be valuable some day. Im from ca and though ive lived in the south for years, i didnt pick up a lot of the things some people in the country know by default, like gardening or being crafty in fixing shit. Itll be worth your time dude, just listen to a few, its really interesting.

[sgreger1]

It fries the electrical substations. When you haven't got your electrical substations - you haven't got electricity. If you haven't got electricity - you've had it. EVERYTHING relies on electricity - from making food to the delivery and refrigeration of food AND the purification of water. This would be my worst fear by far because it would set off looting and rioting.

Stock up on canned food and bottled water and use that until they sort out the substations. BTW - there aren't very many spare substations knocking around, so you'd have to wait until they made one - which of course requires electricity.

Yah a congressional inquiry into an emp strike claime that within one year 90% of people would die. Sewage backed up, no clean water, no food. After you run out of shit to loot people start dying off. Our facilities arent hardened and a solar storm in the digital age would be devestating.

[sgreger1]

quick question, would this event impact the entire planet, or depending on the time would certain areas be impacted and others not? Seems like a pretty severe national security issue..

It woud affect only the side of the planet is pointing towards the sun from what i gather. But this may lead to people takig advantage of a europe or a US with no power. Without electronics our military is useless.

[sgreger1]

Great find. In the same special I watched they talked about the magnetic poles flipping. They said it happens regularly (every 300k years or so, last one was almost 800k years ago so we are overdue). The main thing they said about the flip was while it is flipping our magnetic field is greatly reduced, and it is at that time that a large solar storm would have devastating effects as our protection mechanism is down.

Here is some good information on that event: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...magneticfield/

This is a common 2012 myth. Pole shift take hundreds of thousands of years, not really sometjing to worry about. It doesnt just happen all at once so no worries.

[sgreger1]

I surmise that if it were to take out all or most of the substations it would be nearly a decade before things got back to normal. There would be military in our streets. I wouldn't be there. I'd head for the hills too. Fishing and trapping are a hassle, but very doable. I do have a plan to obtain a firearm but I've had that plan for a while now. The biggest problem is that all of the major electrical equipment isn't made in this country anymore. That's when the chickens could really come home to roost.

Get out of the city, that's for sure. Has anyone watched that show "The Colony"? I think it's pretty shitty but has some interesting points to it. Bring seeds too. Lots of 'em. A dog would be a good idea but cats? They'd only be good for a meal or two. The big problem would be preserving the meat. A smoker I think would be the best idea. I'd go for a freshwater stream. Diarrhea for sure but I think you'd adjust all right. I'd be most scared for my kids. The big thing is shelter. In the Northeast that would be a big problem in only a few months. I certainly wouldn't be able to drive far enough south so that wouldn't be a problem.

I've thought about this stuff plenty. I don't have a kit ready but I've run through the items I would definitely need. I know I still need more and the gun is paramount. This post is wicked disjointed...wine...I will listen to that podcast though. thanks.

Biltong. Its like jerkey. You cure meat and dry it with sea salt and like 2 other spices. Tastes great and lasts for like 15 years. Excelent prepper food. Check out survival podcast, he talks all about the shit discussed of this thread.

[Frosted]

They've just found out that the dinosaurs were bombarded by meteor showers over thousands of years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11112417