2012

[Simplysnus]

May be eventful after all.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/2010082...arth-in_1.html

Not just this, but other disaster type stuff has me in gear to prepare, any survival tips for me?

I'm not by myself and I have cats and dogs too, I'll let the cats out to hunt (probably die waiting to be fed tbh).

[sgreger1]

May be eventful after all.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/2010082...arth-in_1.html

Not just this, but other disaster type stuff has me in gear to prepare, any survival tips for me?

I'm not by myself and I have cats and dogs too, I'll let the cats out to hunt (probably die waiting to be fed tbh).

Best "preper" info on the net. The survival Podcast: www.thesurvivalpodcast.net

Podcast from a really cool guy who's moto is "preparing for when times get tough, or even if they don't". He has all kind of cool tips on non-doomsday ways to be prepared for emergencies like natural disaster or some other unforseen meltdown of society for both temporary and longterm survival. Really intiresting show, I listen to it even though i'm not a prepper.



Also, the story you posted is a rehash of a story out last month where scientists said the solar storm would come in 2013. Probably won't really affect anything, however if it hits just right, it will create an EMP type effect that will fry whatever side of the earth is facing the sun at the time. Fry as in their electronics. When the last big one happened in the 1800's it melted telephone lines and set railroad tracks on fire, pretty cool. Now with sattelites and all, it could cause some major problems. Plus if the US side of the planet gets hit and we lose all of our electronics forever, China and Iran will invade lol.


Edit: "is to strike our planet in 2012 with a force of 100 million hydrogen bombs."

Yes but when the solar particles hit the planet, they follow the magnetic lines on the planet and mostly curve around us. Some of them get through the atmosphere. In usual solar storms, it just creates pretty aurora borialis in the sky, but sometime it goes deeper and can affect things on the actual planet. 100 million hydrogen bombs sounds like a lot, but what actually get inside our atmosphere is pretty small. Sattelites are ****ed though. This type of storm is not unusual or cataclysmic in any way, it happens at least once every 100 years.

The difference this time is that we are running everything on electronics and have a bunch of shit orbiting the planet out in space. So those things may be screwed lol.

[Chigger]

I've been watching this story as well. There is a recent episode of "The Universe" that is on magnetic storms and the possible effect to society.

Its not just the grid and satellites getting fried, its all the systems that rely on those things. You could lose refrigeration emergency services, medical services, communications. Could turn into one heck of a crapstorm because we have become so reliant on technology. The 1859 event caused a few wtf moments from telegraph operations and northern lights visible in Cuba and Hawaii. But a similar event today could be big trouble.

I'll definitely be checking out that podcast. I like that kind of stuff and I'm always looking for interesting podcast to listen to anyway. I can't say I'm much of a prepper, I'd probably GTFO out the city and head for the country and rely on my hunting experience for food. I wouldn't be so worried about being able to live off the land, more that society would go bonkers and descend in the anarchy.

[Frosted]

It fries the electrical substations. When you haven't got your electrical substations - you haven't got electricity. If you haven't got electricity - you've had it. EVERYTHING relies on electricity - from making food to the delivery and refrigeration of food AND the purification of water. This would be my worst fear by far because it would set off looting and rioting.

Stock up on canned food and bottled water and use that until they sort out the substations. BTW - there aren't very many spare substations knocking around, so you'd have to wait until they made one - which of course requires electricity.

[CoderGuy]

I have been watching a lot of Discovery and Science Channel and have seen information about this. While unlikely that it will do massive damage, it wouldn't really take "that" much to change our lives. Back in 1989 a large solar storm took out the power grid in Quebec (http://www.solarstorms.org/SS1989.html). All it would take is enough to take out several of the US stations and it could cause a chain reaction. If it was large enough or enough particles got through to take out 1/2 the world's power grids it would definitely cause a chain reaction and probably take out the rest. They estimated if something like that happened we would most likely be without power for 6-8 months and it may take decades to get everyone back up and running.

Imagine 6 months without power. No communication and no banks alone would be crippling but think about everything that would be gone. Unless you are a merchant or farmer you would pretty much be out of work (I work in computers so I would definitely be out of work).

To quote an old R.E.M. song, "It's the end of the world as we know it."

[Simplysnus]

quick question, would this event impact the entire planet, or depending on the time would certain areas be impacted and others not? Seems like a pretty severe national security issue..

[CoderGuy]

quick question, would this event impact the entire planet, or depending on the time would certain areas be impacted and others not? Seems like a pretty severe national security issue..

Well it would affect directly the sunny side of the planet, but I can't imagine whichever side it happens to be that it wouldn't affect us all. If it was the European side, I am sure we would be sending aid and trying to help as many people as we can... if it's our side I am sure they will be doing the same. In any case we will all be affected.

[Chigger]

Another issue is that the electrical grid is now so interconnected because we like our cheap power and ship the electric so far. So even if not directly effected in a particular location the domino effect on the grid could be great

[Simplysnus]

Well it would affect directly the sunny side of the planet, but I can't imagine whichever side it happens to be that it wouldn't affect us all. If it was the European side, I am sure we would be sending aid and trying to help as many people as we can... if it's our side I am sure they will be doing the same. In any case we will all be affected.

I believe we would be sent aid, however if our military was incapacitated that's sure create an opportunity for someone to strike? Probably stretching on that a bit, but aid would be slow in coming and terribly difficult to distribute given a meltdown of the infrastructure here.

[Simplysnus]

I plan to prep, it's just difficult when I look at lists and have to decide where to start, haha. If only I had 20 grand laying around with nothing better to do.

[CoderGuy]

I believe we would be sent aid, however if our military was incapacitated that's sure create an opportunity for someone to strike? Probably stretching on that a bit, but aid would be slow in coming and terribly difficult to distribute given a meltdown of the infrastructure here.

Agreed. At first I said something different but it wasn't fair to generalize, but we would definitely be vulnerable.

[CoderGuy]

I plan to prep, it's just difficult when I look at lists and have to decide where to start, haha. If only I had 20 grand laying around with nothing better to do.

I wonder if being "prepared" would really be a good thing or just make you a bigger target. All the un-prepared people would be desperate and not having "law and order" would make it that much easier for them to just take what you had. There are a lot of good people in the world and generally people band together and help each other out... for short periods. After a few weeks of no power, food, or running water, garbage piled up everywhere, sewage systems backed up (this stuff happens within a few weeks) the "good" people would no longer be helping each other out but rather trying to survive.

I saw a movie a few months back that was probably one of the most realistic views of life in a post-event world called The Road (http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The-Roa...5?trkid=496751), not a very appealing future.

[Premium Parrots]

when the shit goes down all you need is firearms and some bullets. With those you can get just about anything you need.....even more bullets.


@coderguy.........love your siggy.

[CoderGuy]

when the shit goes down all you need is firearms and some bullets. With those you can get just about anything you need.....even more bullets.


@coderguy.........love your siggy.

Thanks, one of my favorite quotes. BTW I love yours too LOL

I agree with you, being prepared means being the most heavily armed.

[Chigger]

I saw a movie a few months back that was probably one of the most realistic views of life in a post-event world called The Road (http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The-Roa...5?trkid=496751), not a very appealing future.

Great movie, great book, I highly recommend both. Especially if you have kids, the father / son aspect of the movie is another whole level of story beyond the post-apocolyptic theme.