Kagan "It’s Fine If The Law Bans Books Because Government Won’t Really Enforce it"

[Bigblue1]

This is all too much, We are quite simply ****ed.....

[bakerbarber]

I'm scared of her.

Something reptilian and duplicitous oozes out of her.

Like she takes pleasure out of caressing someone's cheek with one hand while simultaneously burying a knife in their liver with the other.

I trust my instincts. If I saw her in a dark alley I'd run. It's the calm, soft spoken one's with forked tongues that can be dangerous.

Nothing about her argument has logical merit in that clip.

God help us.

[StuKlu]

Elections have consequences. How's all that hope and change working out for everybody?

[Bigblue1]

Yeah stuklu, but Mcasshole would be just as bad. different puppets same master....

[StuKlu]

Yeah stuklu, but Mcasshole would be just as bad. different puppets same master....

No actually McAsshole would have been worse in the long run as all of this crap would be happening much slower. At least with what we have the rate of change is so fast that there is still a chance to save the republic as we the people are waking up.

[lxskllr]

The argument, at it's essence was over freedom of speech. The government (Kagan and Obama administration via FCC) argued an organization could not distribute a video documentary, they took issue with. Kagan argued (unsuccessfully) that the government has a right to prohibit a political organization from distributing a documentary. The justices asked if the election law Kagan sought to uphold, also allowed the govt to ban other forms of media, including a book. It was a theoretical argument. No specific book was mentioned.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/01/21/...f-free-speech/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...003943_pf.html

Ah, ok. Well, we won one. They tried to chip off too big a chunk at once. You gotta nibble away at the Constitution to make long term progress overturning it's principles.

[Darwin]

Apparently at the instant of the O's inauguration political dissent abruptly switched from the noblest pursuit of the forces of light and reason to the traitorous demagoguery of hate-mongering fascists. The left can dish the vilest calumny out with gusto as witnessed by eight-tenths of a decade of hysterical Bush hatred but they scream with indignation when they or their anointed golden boy are on the receiving end of criticism. Hence their efforts to quash a documentary as detailed above and their ongoing attempts to use the Fairness Doctrine to shut down conservative talk radio. Bunch of pansies.

[tom502]

This country is going down FAST.

[truthwolf1]

This is a bad blind date!

[shikitohno]

Apparently at the instant of the O's inauguration political dissent abruptly switched from the noblest pursuit of the forces of light and reason to the traitorous demagoguery of hate-mongering fascists. The left can dish the vilest calumny out with gusto as witnessed by eight-tenths of a decade of hysterical Bush hatred but they scream with indignation when they or their anointed golden boy are on the receiving end of criticism. Hence their efforts to quash a documentary as detailed above and their ongoing attempts to use the Fairness Doctrine to shut down conservative talk radio. Bunch of pansies.

Well, you can't ignore that Republicans did the same hysterical act when Bush was being criticized. Still, they didn't try and pull this crap. If it ever gets to the point where the government can ban books or any media they don't like, that'll just serve as the final bit of proof that I need to get the hell off the ship before it totally sinks.

[Darwin]

I sympathize entirely but just where the heck can one flee that isn't as bad if not worse?

[shikitohno]

Last I checked, Europe still doesn't ban books or DVDs for the most part. I can think of some examples where they did, but it's not a common enough practice to bother me. Also, there's Canada just up north. Of course, for all the folks on here who instantly think gulags the second someone mentions the slightest hint of socialism, no you guys are screwed.

[Darwin]

Canada might be okay except for their rather pinched ideas about freedom of speech and the fact that they are even more hostile to tobacco users than the U.S.

[dxh]

I say a big BS.
I do not look at the founders as great. They had no concept of middle class or working class. These are the people that only wanted wealthy white land owners voting.
I say **** them all, they are just as bad as what we have now.
Time for something new...without wealth as the most important thing.

[sgreger1]

I say a big BS.
I do not look at the founders as great. They had no concept of middle class or working class. These are the people that only wanted wealthy white land owners voting.
I say **** them all, they are just as bad as what we have now.
Time for something new...without wealth as the most important thing.

But my friend, you forget the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rule.