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  • Joe234
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    • Apr 2010
    • 1948

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    USS Liberty Survivor Attacked Again By Israel In International Water






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  • sgreger1
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #2
    Raw video : Hamas has released footage of its rocket attacks on Israel (I love how after firing multiple rockets onto civilians in Israel, the the masked terrorists hold up peace signs tot he camera lol)

    Video: Hezbollah stockpiles 40,000 rockets near Israel border

    Video: Rockets hit Israel from Lebanon

    Guerrillas fire barrage of rockets into Israel
    2 killed, 90 injured as attacks reach as far as city 18 miles from border


    A few hours after Russia called on Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel, a Qassam launched from northern Gaza Thursday evening exploded in an open area within the Ashkelon Beach Regional Council's limits.



    Joe, just keep it in perspective. Is it bad what Israel is doing? Yes. But tell me why you focus on Israel doing bad things and turn a blind eye to everyone else doing bad things to Israel? When Hamas lobs rockets onto civilians in Israel hours after a ceasefire agreement, why are you not starting multiple threads about it? Because you are a lockstep democrat and no better than the religious whacko republicans, you all believe there is only 1 side to the story (the side that makes you look good and that makes the enemy look bad)

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    • Joe234
      Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1948

      #3
      I didn't know I had posted multiple threads on this. Unless I'm mistaken this
      is my first post on Israel.

      The guy in the video I posted, Ambassador Peck, is Reagan's former deputy director director
      of his task force on terrorism. He says the people on the flotilla used the pipes
      in self defense. Watch the video.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Peck
      In May 2010, Peck was among the pro-Palestinian activists in the Gaza Freedom Flotilla trying to break through Israel's blockade of Gaza. Peck was not harmed in Israel's raid; he reported he was brought to Israel "at gunpoint" and expelled the same day for "having illegally entered Israel";[3] he flew to Newark, New Jersey.[4][5]

      I'm not a Democrat

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      • Joe234
        Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1948

        #4
        Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
        Raw video : Hamas has released footage of its rocket attacks on Israel (I love how after firing multiple rockets onto civilians in Israel, the the masked terrorists hold up peace signs tot he camera lol)

        Video: Hezbollah stockpiles 40,000 rockets near Israel border

        Video: Rockets hit Israel from Lebanon

        Guerrillas fire barrage of rockets into Israel
        2 killed, 90 injured as attacks reach as far as city 18 miles from border


        A few hours after Russia called on Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel, a Qassam launched from northern Gaza Thursday evening exploded in an open area within the Ashkelon Beach Regional Council's limits.



        Joe, just keep it in perspective. Is it bad what Israel is doing? Yes. But tell me why you focus on Israel doing bad things and turn a blind eye to everyone else doing bad things to Israel? When Hamas lobs rockets onto civilians in Israel hours after a ceasefire agreement, why are you not starting multiple threads about it? Because you are a lockstep democrat and no better than the religious whacko republicans, you all believe there is only 1 side to the story (the side that makes you look good and that makes the enemy look bad)
        Wow! A couple of scuds? How many did Israel kill in the last invasion? Was is 1,000?
        And when are they going to give up the occupied territories?

        http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story571.html
        As of 1947, Jews in Palestine owned UNDER 7% of the Palestine's lands, and after the 1948 war 80% of the Palestinian people were DISPOSSESSED of their homes, farms, and businesses. Scroll below for the source and tabular break down of land ownership.

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        • tom502
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 8985

          #5
          The establishment of a zionist state of Israel, was a zionist goal long before WW2. The cause of all this trouble today, is when the UN enforced it on Palestine. Instead, since this was fueled by the holocaust, the UN should have segmented a part out of Germany and called it Israel, but then, would the local Germans have been happy with this? Germany basically obeys any command by Israel now anyway. They should have put it in Germany.

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          • LaZeR
            Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 3994

            #6
            Originally posted by Joe234 View Post
            ....(from another thread)....I said I was going to hang up politics on this forum. However sometimes
            I can't resist.

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            • truthwolf1
              Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 2696

              #7
              Wow. From that video I have really lost all respect for Michelle Bachman! Did not know she was such a full blown zionist. She could be jewish though? Then her thoughts would atleast be understandable.

              She is a local politician who sided very closely with Ron Paul.

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              • tom502
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 8985

                #8
                In my city, on the news, it showed a bunch of protestors against Israel's actions standing in front of the Jewish center. My wife said not long ago you'd never see this. I guess there is a change taking place.

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                • danielan
                  Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1514

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                  In my city, on the news, it showed a bunch of protestors against Israel's actions standing in front of the Jewish center. My wife said not long ago you'd never see this. I guess there is a change taking place.
                  Yeah, we used to be smarter.

                  This is like protesting Italy in front of a Catholic church.

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                  • tom502
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 8985

                    #10
                    Well, I did think it kinda misguided to assail the Jewsih center, they should have went to the mayor's home, but her comment was based on being vocal in public criticizing Israel.

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                    • truthwolf1
                      Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2696

                      #11
                      This whole USS Liberty false flag on MSNBC mainstream is pretty crazy though. It is not even a liberal issue because the zionists have a major influence on both sides of the fence. What hell is going on? Why are they exposing this now? Something is definately up because this was a full blown coverup. Very odd.

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                      • tom502
                        Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 8985

                        #12
                        Where is the article, I'm on msnbc but not seeing it?

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                        • danielan
                          Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1514

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tom502 View Post
                          Well, I did think it kinda misguided to assail the Jewsih center.
                          Kind of misguided, totally racist... PotAto, POtato.

                          Even if Israel was in the wrong. The problem is not the Jewish. It is possibly the Israeli government.

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                          • danielan
                            Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1514

                            #14
                            Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
                            Why are they exposing this now? Something is definately up because this was a full blown coverup.
                            Just because YOU don't know about it doesn't make it a coverup.

                            There was a cable tv documentary about it several years ago.

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                            • truthwolf1
                              Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2696

                              #15
                              Originally posted by danielan View Post
                              Just because YOU don't know about it doesn't make it a coverup.

                              There was a cable tv documentary about it several years ago.
                              I read about this years ago but I did not know it was ever on mainstream before. Just picked a random site but this was the incident.

                              Cover Up Claimed In Attack: Ex-Admiral Questions Facts of Liberty Raid

                              WASHINGTON (AP) Retired Adm. Thomas Moorer accused the U.S. and Israeli governments yesterday of covering up evidence surrounding the 1967 Israeli attack on the American intelligence ship USS Liberty.

                              Thirty-four American crewmen were killed and 171 wounded in the combined air and sea attack June 8, 1967, against the reconnaissance ship, cruising in international waters 15 miles off the Sinai Peninsula during the Six-Day War.

                              Israel maintains its fighter pilots, who buzzed the ship for eight hours before the attack, and torpedo boat crews, mistook the Liberty for an Egyptian ship.

                              "The Israelis maintain this was simply a case of mistaken identity, but this clearly does not hold water," said Moorer, who was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack. "In clear visibility, this unique ship was very easy to identify.

                              "The Israeli forces circled the ship and then proceeded to attack over an extended period of time. There is Simply no way the fighter pilots and torpedo boat crews could have come to such a conclusion," he said.

                              Moorer, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, joined a dozen surviving crew members of the USS Liberty at a seminar during the annual convention of the AmericanArab AntiDiscrimination Committee in Washington.

                              He suggested the incident was a deliberate attack to prevent the Liberty from picking up signals that could have forewarned the United States of an Israeli military push into Syria the next day.

                              "Based on the way this tragedy was handled, both in the United States and Israel, one must conclude there is much information that has not been made available to the public," Moorer said.

                              The U.S. 6th Fleet, positioned nearby, received a distress call from the Liberty, and one carrier dispatched a squadron to search for the disabled ship. Before the ship was found, the fleet received orders from Washington ordering the planes back. Moorer called on Congress to, once and for all clear up the uncertainties, speculation and unanswered questions surrounding this tragedy, which is still thought by many to be a deliberate coverup on the part of the government of Israel as well as the government of the United States.

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