Aid ship attacked by Israeli soldiers

[Roo]

The ship was meant to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, this blockade you speak of refers to Israel's prohibition of the flow of goods and services to Gaza. The ship was trying to circumvent Israels measures and deliver things like food, medicine, and wheelchairs to Palastinians in the blockaded area. Israel has a lot of questions to answer.

[danielan]

The ship was meant to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, this blockade you speak of refers to Israel's prohibition of the flow of goods and services to Gaza. The ship was trying to circumvent Israels measures and deliver things like food, medicine, and wheelchairs to Palastinians in the blockaded area. Israel has a lot of questions to answer.

I agree, if it is only food, medicine and wheelchairs.

It seems to be primarily protesters (you don't need 600 people to deliver food, medicine and wheelchairs (unless these are really big rowboats) - and Gaza has enough radicals).

Food, medicine and wheel chairs seem to flow in via Israel. http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/News...10/05/0503.htm

If you are against the blockade, that's one thing. Although, with Hamas in power in Gaza and the history of rocket attacks in Gaza I think Israel has reason to want to continue the blockade.

Anyway, this flotilla seems, IMO, much more political then humanitarian.

[tom502]

I may be wrong, but I think a large amount of people in America think like this, concerning Israel, and their flagerant disobeying international laws and such, whenever I mention anything critical about Israel to my father, his comeback answer is always, "they are God's chosen people", so I guess that gives them a pass to do whatever they want.

[danielan]

I may be wrong, but I think a large amount of people in America think like this, concerning Israel, and their flagerant disobeying international laws and such, whenever I mention anything critical about Israel to my father, his comeback answer is always, "they are God's chosen people", so I guess that gives them a pass to do whatever they want.

I haven't heard that before. It doesn't seem like an appropriate basis for a policy.

My opinions are a bit more secular. Hamas is widely considered to be a terrorist organization. Hamas is in power in Gaza.

I think it is rational to limit the shipping into Gaza until there is a non-terrorist government in place in Gaza. Or alternately, Hamas begins to act in a responsible manner and the terrorist label is legitimately removed.

Until then, I think Egypt and Israel have a legitimate reason to continue this blockade.

I could be completely wrong, but my understanding from several reputable sources is that the blockade primarily blocks cement, fertilizer, and luxury items - while also, due to delays, ends up also blocking some perishable foods.

[AllanH]

Turkish citizens, maybe others too, were killed aboard Turkish ship in international waters by Israeli military is the main point here.
Wars have started from less.

[danielan]

Yeah, I'd care more if they were innocent Turkish fishermen minding their own business. They went looking for trouble and found it.

In the interest of fairness - I feel the same about those goofy "reporters" who invaded North Korea or the idiot "hikers" who crossed over into Iran.

[AllanH]

Well, those people weren't shot, that's the difference. And they crossed border illegally.

[danielan]

Yeah, Israel should have waited until they were within 3 nautical miles then torpedoed them.

They could have then covered it up as a "False Flag" operation by the Hamas/CIA.

[Frosted]

As I've said - the only problem I have with this boarding is if it was in fact illegal which some of you seem to have on authority that it was. The legality or illegality of the boarding has not been reported upon whatsoever so far. If it was legal - no argument. Likewise if it was illegal - no argument - Israel must answer to the consequences. Customs Officers/Police etc board boats every single day of the week. I also understand that the captain of the boat knew that the Israeli Army wanted to board in advance. The Israeli Army obviously acted on intelligence and responded accordingly as would any government force.

Folks - there either is a blockade or there isn't. The Israelis absoloutely have to enforce it - whether you agree with it or not. Any country HAS to enforce its laws.

[Frosted]

Well, those people weren't shot, that's the difference. And they crossed border illegally.

Yeah - that's because they didn't try and take a soldiers gun off him or attack them with knives and bars - or you'd have a totally different story.

[Frosted]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3b_1275323514

[tom502]

Well, they invaded that ship. If someone busted in your home, or tried to get into your car on the street, you'd attack them. The question now, is did Israel have the right to send armed soldiers onto that ship?

[Frosted]

Well, they invaded that ship. If someone busted in your home, or tried to get into your car on the street, you'd attack them. The question now, is did Israel have the right to send armed soldiers onto that ship?

If they had a gun I wouldn't - no.

But yes Tom - did Israel have the right to send soldiers on to the boat in the first place? The problem is you have to be careful where you send soldiers because if it does go tits up people get killed as in this scenario.

Looking at the position of the boat when it was boarded - it was in international waters but slap bang in the middle of the direction of Gaza.

[Judge Faust]

The fact of the matter is that international maritime law is nearly nonexistent. Most nations currently agree on two things only: nations can prosecute their own citizens for crimes committed on the high seas, and nations have the duty to protect their own citizens on the high seas. As you can see, with a rogue state such as Israel, this gets us absolutely nowhere.

Now, here is my own personal opinion: The Zionist Empire is a disgrace to the human race. This false nation, created by the whims of the American and British occupiers of the Middle East, is the one true heir to NAZI Germany. For decades, it has demonstrated nothing but a complete and utter disregard for human life, a blatant racism best relegated to the 16th century, and an inhuman bloodlust that would have sent shivers down Hitler's spine. The Zionists have pissed on the proud history of their Judaic forefathers and have set down a path of violence and infamy, treating the Holocaust as a credit account against which they can charge each and every crime that they wish to unleash on modern humanity. I send my condolences to the families and victims of Israel's latest crime against humanity, as well as to the millions affected by its campaign of genocide against the Muslim world.

[bipolarbear1968]

The fact of the matter is that international maritime law is nearly nonexistent. Most nations currently agree on two things only: nations can prosecute their own citizens for crimes committed on the high seas, and nations have the duty to protect their own citizens on the high seas. As you can see, with a rogue state such as Israel, this gets us absolutely nowhere.

Now, here is my own personal opinion: The Zionist Empire is a disgrace to the human race. This false nation, created by the whims of the American and British occupiers of the Middle East, is the one true heir to NAZI Germany. For decades, it has demonstrated nothing but a complete and utter disregard for human life, a blatant racism best relegated to the 16th century, and an inhuman bloodlust that would have sent shivers down Hitler's spine. The Zionists have pissed on the proud history of their Judaic forefathers and have set down a path of violence and infamy, treating the Holocaust as a credit account against which they can charge each and every crime that they wish to unleash on modern humanity. I send my condolences to the families and victims of Israel's latest crime against humanity, as well as to the millions affected by its campaign of genocide against the Muslim world.

Are you off your meds?