G.M.O. Tobacco

[wadetheblade]

I was bothered by gmo food and mostly everything about it after watching Food inc. and learning a little about the company practices involved in producing it. I would not be interested in gmo snus.

[sgreger1]

Soon they will grow intelligence and develop ability to move and grow to frightening size, then their plan will take effect.

Like that cartoon, attack of the killer tomatoes?

[sgreger1]

I think a lot of people don't realize just how toxic and bad for your GMO foods are.

There's two main types of genetic alterations done to GMO foods, either they are poison drinking or poison producing. One is modified so that it can obsorb pesticides that would normally kill a tomatoe, and the other allows for the tomatoe to actually excreet pesticide, so each plant cell has a little spray bottle that sprays a chemical that ips open the stomachs of anything that eats it.


Monsanto studies show it's totally safe, but nearly every other independant study from all over the world shows that mice who eat GMO foods have less and less babies the more they eat, and it also degraded the immune system in a significant way. GMO cotton produces a poison that makes the skin itch for the people who work the crops, and animals that craze on GMO foods often times fall ill.

GMO foods are literally the worst thing you can eat, and there is not enough research behind it to prove it's safe, infact all of the research points to it being extremely not safe. Study after study it shows an increse in sterility and a slow breakdown of the immune system which leads to all sorts of diseases.

in 1996 when Gmo was getting off the ground, 7% of people had 3 or more illnesses, 9 years later it's now 13%. Food allergies have doubled, and a raise in cancer and autism has also followed. 91% of soy is GMO, and 85% of corn is GMO. Watch what you eat because it gets into everything from your ketchup to your sugar suppliments.


Long story short, I would never get any GMO snus near my mouth.

[sgreger1]

Also, GMO tobacco may not be that far off:

The ex vice president of monsanto, FDA guy, and long time regulator that rubber stamped everything GMO is now Obama's Food Safety Czar.

The person single handedly responsible fore the most food related illness and deaths on the planet is now the food safety czar where he will decide what is or is not "safe" for us. Keep that in mind. It seems that Obama's handlers got him elected, then got to pick out all their best cronies to become his czars as payment. "Ill get you elected, then we pack your cabinet with our goldman sachs and monsanto guys, deal" Obama: "Totally".

[Jwalker]

My only problem with GM food is that you can patent the seeds and have a monopoly on food supplies. I don't think the patents even expire unlike every other patent on pharmaceuticals or technology. There's not much difference between Genetically modifying food and cross breeding though. If it weren't for pesticides and cross breeding that people like Norman Borlag did half the world would be starving right now.

[sgreger1]

My only problem with GM food is that you can patent the seeds and have a monopoly on food supplies. I don't think the patents even expire unlike every other patent on pharmaceuticals or technology. There's not much difference between Genetically modifying food and cross breeding though. If it weren't for pesticides and cross breeding that people like Norman Borlag did half the world would be starving right now.

No GM is completely different than cross breeding or pesticides, and is far more dangerous. The main problem is that once you introduce GM food into the gene pool, it can never be fully recalled. Like canola for example, many weeds cross polinate with the GM canola and therefore the weeds become resistant to pesticides and/or kill any bugs that get on them, they will then go on to crossbreed with others etc. Since we are introducing a genetically superior set of genes into the gene pool, it will overpower the natural plants that surround our farms and through cross-pollination could have a devistating affect on the ecology of our planet in the long run. And it can't be undone because it is in the gene pool, it can't be recalled.

[RedMacGregor]

Tomatoes etc are as good as they can be, no need to make it better, billions of years of evolution has made them perfect, no need to think some corp can come up with a better idea in 5 years.

ummm ever seen a wild tomato?

[bakerbarber]

it's a slippery slope.

the grays are us from the future trying to warn us.

"stop dicking around with nature"

I wouldn't hand a four year old a running chainsaw to open up a juicebox. We're messing around with stuff that can't be pulled back like sgreger1 said. The unknown and unforeseen implications of this kind of meddling has been minimized by greed.

I've read studies that suggest the altered DNA of GMO food spreads to the fauna in your gut. So, basically the bacteria DNA injected into GMO corn and soy gets copied into the normally beneficial bacteria we all have in our digestive tracts. Then this mutated bacteria that normally helps you digest and metabolize food starts spitting out poison into your system, and continues to do so long after you've eaten the GMO food.

[Darwin]

These things are also part of the natural world. Poison ivy, deadly nightshade, poisonous fungi, flies, mosquitos, wasps, hornets venomous snakes, thorns, nettles, roaches, ebola, bubonic plague, salmonella, lions, tigers,and bears etc. etc. etc. Much of the "natural" world is actively hostile to humans and so it scarcely be seen as automatically and inherently nurturing and benign for humans.

Virtually every plant that humans eat and like is the end result of thousands of generations of selective breeding for traits that better adapt it to human needs and wants. Few agricultural products bear anything but a faintly passing similarity to the originally evolved base plant variety. A modern tomato, carrot, or ear of corn would barely be recognizable as food to the original selective breeders of the parent plant stock thousands of years ago.

[sgreger1]

ummm ever seen a wild tomato?

Yes, ive grown many tomato plants before. Plants from seeds that took many generations to make so tasty. A certain amount must be expected to be lost to insects but that's just the cost of nature, insects need to eat and theres no way to stop it. Even GM foods dont stop that. GM foods reduce crop yield over time and the weeds and bugs become resistant over time as well (they just mentioned this week that roundup is now starting to not work as nature adapts to it.

[sgreger1]

These things are also part of the natural world. Poison ivy, deadly nightshade, poisonous fungi, flies, mosquitos, wasps, hornets venomous snakes, thorns, nettles, roaches, ebola, bubonic plague, salmonella, lions, tigers,and bears etc. etc. etc. Much of the "natural" world is actively hostile to humans and so it scarcely be seen as automatically and inherently nurturing and benign for humans.

Virtually every plant that humans eat and like is the end result of thousands of generations of selective breeding for traits that better adapt it to human needs and wants. Few agricultural products bear anything but a faintly passing similarity to the originally evolved base plant variety. A modern tomato, carrot, or ear of corn would barely be recognizable as food to the original selective breeders of the parent plant stock thousands of years ago.

? Is anyone saying that this isn't the case? Selective breeding is one thing, messing with the DNA to make the plant secrete poison is another. I love the idea of using tech to bitchslap evolution and get ahead, but this one produces bad results and is just a scheme to make profit. Profit would be fine if it didn't negatively affect everyone that eats it.

[danielan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/sc...me&ref=general

Corn has a fascinating story.

[tom502]

I saw a show that showed how our modern consumable fruits and veges are nothing like they were, or originally were. It's through seed manipulation, maybe cross breeding, or whatever, that seeks to make the biggest plumpest item, and the original strains were not like what we buy today.

[bakerbarber]

http://www.dtnprogressivefarmer.com/...8-39bac7e6ddf6

[danielan]

Ha! I used to work for the company that runs that website back a few years.