Low Carb diet aka Atkin's

[sgreger1]

There is a political bias against carb restriction. The "doctors" and "dieticians" all promote a high carb diet, yet the scientific studies show that carb restriction generates the best health, and are not needed at all.

Ignore this site link has "bible" in it, as it really has some great backed up evidence to support what I have said. And again, while in "diet", you will find conflicting ideas, all with studies and quotes to back them up, they do all generally agree that we should should not be eating refined carbs, like flour, sugar, hfcs... etc.

http://www.biblelife.org/myths.htm

The website claims that the food pyramid is a conspiracy created by vegans and that it is not based on science. They say there is no scientific research or data that went into the creation of the pyramid or the recommended daily allowance of carbs, yet there infact is literally dozens of peer-reviewed scientific papers that went into the creation of the food pyramid.
The majority (if not all) peer-reviewed research points to the fact that atkins is bad and the RDA on the food pyramid is good.


WickedKitchen made a pretty good list, I would follow that.

[tom502]

Well, we could go back and forth forever, but the recent studies show that a carb controlled diet like Atkins not only makes best weight loss, it also produces the greatest health, and also is preventitive for many diseases.

http://www.examiner.com/x-29228-Heal...blood-pressure

http://www.boston.com/news/health/bl...tudy_hold.html

I could go on and on...
But if you are referring to the Atkins diet, it recommends quality low glycemic vegetables and fruits, and starts with a 20g carb limit and builds up from there, to where an individual finds their carb limit for themselves.

A typical Atkins meal would be baked chicken, green beans, and a salad.

[Christi]

Well, we could go back and forth forever, but the recent studies show that a carb controlled diet like Atkins not only makes best weight loss, it also produces the greatest health, and also is preventitive for many diseases.

http://www.examiner.com/x-29228-Heal...blood-pressure

http://www.boston.com/news/health/bl...tudy_hold.html

I could go on and on...
But if you are referring to the Atkins diet, it recommends quality low glycemic vegetables and fruits, and starts with a 20g carb limit and builds up from there, to where an individual finds their carb limit for themselves.

A typical Atkins meal would be baked chicken, green beans, and a salad.

Once you get out of the induction phase you can add in your carbs. It is by no means a NO carb diet. The meal listed above is very much a typical meal and something I used to eat often as a kid. I was very thin up until I moved out of my mom and dad's house and started eating shitty. I gained 40lbs fast and then got pregnant the first time. The day I graduated HS I weighed 110lbs soaking wet. I weighed 154 the day I found out I was pregnant with #1(I was 21). So it took me 3 years to gain that 40lbs but it stayed with me. I was actually on Atkin's the week b4 I found out I was pregnant trying to lose some of the extra weight.

The rest of my weight gain comes from using all 3 of my pregnancies as an excuse to over eat. I lost the gained baby weight with baby #1-got down to exactly 154 and got pregnant again. I gained the most weight with #2 getting up to 220lbs, but lost all the baby weight and another 20lbs getting me down to 134. Over the 3 years I gradually added 50 pounds on then found myself pregnant again. I got up to 212 with this one. And since having her(3 more years later) I have managed to put on something near 20 more pounds than my weight when giving birth. Today I sit at 223, but that is after losing 7 pounds over the last week. My highest weight was 233 around Christmas time last year.


me prom night 1999-weight 109(I remember weighing that day like it was yesterday)

Just add 110 pounds to that person and that is me now. I don't take or let anyone who does take photo's of me keep them. I hate how I look and the fact that my kids call me fat and tell me they wish my big belly would go away. I am working as hard as I can to get healthy. I don't think that cutting down my carbs and letting go of beer are the wrong thing for me to do. Exercise is my next step. I have been on every diet under the sun and the only one that I can stick to w/o cheating and see results every time is Atkin's.

Sorry for the sob story, just wanted everyone in this thread to see my feelings, maybe you do now.

[Ainkor]

Just add 110 pounds to that person and that is me now. I don't take or let anyone who does take photo's of me keep them. I hate how I look and the fact that my kids call me fat and tell me they wish my big belly would go away. I am working as hard as I can to get healthy. I don't think that cutting down my carbs and letting go of beer are the wrong thing for me to do. Exercise is my next step. I have been on every diet under the sun and the only one that I can stick to w/o cheating and see results every time is Atkin's.

Sorry for the sob story, just wanted everyone in this thread to see my feelings, maybe you do now.

Not sure what to say about that paragraph Christi. Low self esteem is actually the number 1 cause of being overweight, IMO. An interesting thing happened to me when I lost a ton of weight. At work, all the sudden I was treated like I was a real person for the first time. It was as though since I was skinny, my input was valued. I instantly went from a zero to the next mover and shaker in our company. Some of that was because of me being more outgoing (hell, I always was, just more so!) but there was a marked change.

I'm not so sure I knew how to deal with people and in actuality, it hurt my feelings quite a bit. I worked just as hard when I was fat, tried just as hard and got just as good results at work. I read an interesting quote once. It said that the main reason fat people stay fat is not because they want to, but they know how it is. They know how people will treat them and what their general place is in society. Once they are skinny, it all changes. It's almost a crutch for them to lean on. When bad things happen or good things fail to happen, its much easier to blame it on me being fat that on other deficiency. I am not saying this is the case in your situation, but I can sure identify with this in many situations in life.

I hated being treated differently skinny that fat but thats life. People are shallow and selfish. I need to first be comfortable with myself and who I am before I can do anything. I am still learning this and thus, am still fat even though I took a 4 year "skinnycation".

It all starts in your mind. The human brain has all the power one needs to bring change into their life, but it has to start with you. It doesn't matter which diet you choose as all will fail over the long term. You need to think of it as a lifestyle change and then it will last longer.

If you want to be more healthy, its as simple as snapping your fingers, making that choice and then living that choice daily. It's not about beating yourself up because you ate a big meal. Its about making good decisions daily and being happy with where you are right now, but always striving to improve, in a positive way. The better you feel about yourself the better you do loosing weight, its that simple.

[Christi]

I can totally understand how people treat me differently now as compared to when I was thin. I was popular and everyone wanted to be my best buddy. Now, sadly, I don't want to go out of the house because I am ashamed of my weight. When I do, people don't look at me like they used to. I am still just as outgoing as ever, and even in church I am treated differently.

It is a sad world we live in, but all true.

I am honestly working on my weight, I have been off and on for years. It is really hard to change what you know, and for me love(food). You are right tho, it is very easy if you make your mind up.

[RedMacGregor]

the world changes when you're thin... people treat you better, you get those free upgrades at the airport/hotel/car rental when you're travelling. strangers smile and do things for you that they normally wouldn't do.

you live longer, healthier

thin is good..

I've dropped a whole % point of body fat in the past week and a half. I can't recommend this book enough:

http://www.google.com/products/catal...wAg#ps-sellers

[tom502]

Looks like a good book. I was reading the reviews of it on Amazon. It seems to be the basic idea as in the book Neanderthin, which I have, that tells how obesity and sickness really started after the industrial revolution, and it from eating things humans were not meant to eat. He gives the idea that we should only eat real foods, that are not processed and manufactured, and if you were a caveman with a sharp stick, what you would eat. I agree with this. Not sure if The Primal Blueprint is the same, but that's the impression I got.

[Christi]

I have a hard time giving up bread, don't know if I can give up processed crap or not, lol. Guess if I really wanted to I could.

[tom502]

Don't even have it in the house.

[Christi]

Don't even have it in the house.

OK I would totally do organic and raw if I could. My husband says it is way to expensive for a family of 5 living on only one salary(and I agree). But if I could that is how I would eat. I don't even really care for meat(except steak) so I could be a semi-vegan, cuz I gotta have steak.

I wish I could live alone sometimes so I could decide the groceries on my own. But I would miss my kids.

[tom502]

Well, if your husband is doing Atkins as well, you really have no need to have tempting junk in the house. Flour, sugar, breads, breaded stuff, and starchy things like potatos, really are just bad for ones health, blood sugar, heart, and waistline. We don't need it, and kids surely don't need it. As adults we reach this stage from years and years of ingesting unfoods, which harm our ability to metabolize it, and leave us depressed, overweight, and addicted. I have a lot of resentment about the way I was raised, as we had zero eating regulations, and I'd often get a big mixing bowl and fill it with high sugar cereal, and often make quadruple PB&J sandwiches, and we often had junk breaded "fish sticks", it was just junk and junk, and now here I am today. And the actual addiction, physical, and mental, as well as ingrained habits and food thoughts, are real, and hard to break, like meth, and they don't happen overnight, but a lifetime.

[Christi]

Well, if your husband is doing Atkins as well, you really have no need to have tempting junk in the house. Flour, sugar, breads, breaded stuff, and starchy things like potatos, really are just bad for ones health, blood sugar, heart, and waistline. We don't need it, and kids surely don't need it. As adults we reach this stage from years and years of ingesting unfoods, which harm our ability to metabolize it, and leave us depressed, overweight, and addicted. I have a lot of resentment about the way I was raised, as we had zero eating regulations, and I'd often get a big mixing bowl and fill it with high sugar cereal, and often make quadruple PB&J sandwiches, and we often had junk breaded "fish sticks", it was just junk and junk, and now here I am today. And the actual addiction, physical, and mental, as well as ingrained habits and food thoughts, are real, and hard to break, like meth, and they don't happen overnight, but a lifetime.

What do I do if I have already done this to my own kids? That is about what they eat, with the exception of the cereal, I don't buy the sugary kind.

[tom502]

Well, as a fat diet failure and food addict myself, I would say in general, that children should not eat anything with flour, sugar, wheat, pasta, corn, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, potatos, and really, even grains, and beans(legumes). I would focus on vegetables, and meats, and maybe some small amount of fruits, and nuts. But meat, eggs, fish, is great, and vegetables like greens, spinach, onions, green beans, etc. I am most convinced is the optimal diet. The idea is most natural, least, if at all, processed. Just my opinion, of course, though I see fat diabetic kids, eating french fries, cakes, and swilling down full sodas, I even saw a mother give full soda to their baby once.

[Christi]

Well at least I win an award there, I don't and won't give my kids soda's. Sometimes they sneak a drink of dad's diet coke but NEVER full one. Not only is soda bad for us, diet or not, it isn't something I want them used to. My brother kept my daughter once and when I picked her up she had Dr. Pepper in her sippy cup, he hasn't kept her again.

[tom502]

Now if I could only succeed in doing this all myself.
I did bring some baked chicken and spinach for lunch today.

And some areas, I find myself back and forth on, as there is a lot of varying view points on food, each with what seems logical things to back them up on, it's hard to know what is really "right" sometimes, but I think everyone agrees with the flour and sugar(and variants) as bad.