Operating systems that do not suck. Are there any?

[RedMacGregor]

Going on one year, not a single virus or spyware.

Wow a whole year?

I haven't had a virus since around the first gulf war. And i run windows.

No operating system is perfect and the vast majority of issues people have can be solved by an implementation of a software package called Common Sense 2.0.

Mac OSX has been rooted over and over again. Security through obscurity and all that. Linux is fairly secure but they get rooted fairly regularly too. OSX owes most of its' "security" to the fact that their market share is so small the malicious coders don't bother with it.

All operating systems are relatively insecure that is the nature of the beast. At the end of the day it comes down to taste and personal preference.

standard FUD... my wife has a user acct, that requires sudo to do anything harmful. even my own mac requires sudo to do anything harmful.. it works, and windows 7 has finally gotten around to copying it.

[BlackBart]

you just pop in the cd and reboot to install........your bios will have to be set to boot from cd instead of hard drive, I use linux mint which is based on Ubuntu but is prettier I think.

[wa3zrm]

http://www.freebsd.org/

FreeBSD is an advanced operating system for modern server, desktop, and embedded computer platforms. FreeBSD's code base has undergone over thirty years of continuous development, improvement, and optimization. It is developed and maintained by a large team of individuals. FreeBSD provides advanced networking, impressive security features, and world class performance and is used by some of the world's busiest web sites and most pervasive embedded networking and storage devices.

FreeBSD operates on x86 compatibles (including Pentium and Athlon), amd64 compatible (including Opteron, Athlon64, and EM64T), ARM, IA-64, PowerPC, PC-98 and UltraSPARC architectures. It is derived from BSD, the version of UNIX developed at the University of California, Berkeley.

I've been using it since the 1980's. It is the operating system the Internet grew up on.

[sgreger1]

****, so after 3 hours of downloading, the ubunto iso is too big to fit on a cd. By like 38 kb.

Can I use a flash drive?


EDIT: Can't use flash either. Must find higher capacity cd-r 700 mb not enough

[sgreger1]

So since a CD is not big enough. I am using Unetbootin, it claims to allow you to boot from a usb flash drive. Ill see if that will work.

[sgreger1]

Okay so i booted with the ISO, then it went to the ubunto logo for a while. Thn went to command prompt. No idea what commad to use.

[badlands]

you did download ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso right? that should fit on a 700 mb CD.

[shikitohno]

Here's a link to download the disc image. It's designed to fit on a single CD, so I'm thinking you may have downloaded the wrong file. 700mb is as big as you're going to see on a CD.

And don't use FreeBSD, whatever you do. You'll have a nightmare configuring that one. It's the only linux distro I can't get working properly, even following the FAQ. I've tried three or four times, and it never manages to install the X server, even though I redownloaded/checked the disc image each time.

To explain some of the comments, ext3 is the most common type of file system in linux distros now, although ext4 is the newer faster one. It's just the way things are sorted/handled on your hard drive. / is like seeing C:\ in Windows.

[nathancipher]

Going on one year, not a single virus or spyware.

Wow a whole year?

I haven't had a virus since around the first gulf war. And i run windows.

No operating system is perfect and the vast majority of issues people have can be solved by an implementation of a software package called Common Sense 2.0.

Mac OSX has been rooted over and over again. Security through obscurity and all that. Linux is fairly secure but they get rooted fairly regularly too. OSX owes most of its' "security" to the fact that their market share is so small the malicious coders don't bother with it.

All operating systems are relatively insecure that is the nature of the beast. At the end of the day it comes down to taste and personal preference.

standard FUD... my wife has a user acct, that requires sudo to do anything harmful. even my own mac requires sudo to do anything harmful.. it works, and windows 7 has finally gotten around to copying it.

not particularly. true you may need to run standard issue crapware, malware, virii, etc as an admin thru sudo command but there are still exploits out there. nothing is 100% secure that's just life and at the end of the day there is still a user involved, so there's that security "flaw" as well.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&ei=1o0e...a7afc20f628895

edit: my main point being, people should use what they're comfortable with and like to use. simple as that. every OS has it's own distinct pros and cons. that's all i'm really saying man.

[sgreger1]

Yah so check this out:


I downloaded the link you gave me badlands.
I tried to burn it, but the disk was too small by 30kb or something. My computer requires that I formatt the CD-R before burning files to it, so that took up the little extra space.

So then I tried using a USB, for this I googled and found UNetbootin.

This made it so that I could load the ISO from the flash drive.


So it starts loading, some command prompt crap. Then the Ubunut logo, loading screen.

After the loading screen it goes to a command prompt

(initramfs)

I try typing help for list of commands but all linux commands are foreign to me.


After trying it two more times, randomly it works, it skips the command prompt and just loads ubuntu!


Victory I exclaim! But lo, after getting onto the ubuntu desktop, nothing works. None of the applications or anything in the OS work, every time I click on anything it says

"Failed to execute child process input/output error"


So now I don't know what to do. I don't even know how I go tit to work in the first place. Since I used unetbootin it didn't take me through the normall installation process whereit asks how I want to partition or anything.


Does anyone know wtf is happening?


Also I have a AMD 64 x2 processor and an ATI Radeon I think graphics card so I don't think this is a hardware issue.

[snupy]

I use Debian, which is what Ubuntu is based upon. I have nothing against Macs, or any Unix really, except I must have a left handed setup on my desktop. From what I understand, Macs don't allow the desktop to be customized for left hand to the extent that I must have.

Debian comes in three versions, which are stable, testing and unstable. I use the stable version, also known as Lenny. I have found Ubuntu to be too slow and far too quirky in the past. I've no such issues with Debian.

[snupy]

Does anyone know wtf is happening?

Did you verify the ISO image prior to burning the CD? You need to make sure the download is correct before burning to CD.

[sgreger1]

Does anyone know wtf is happening?

Did you verify the ISO image prior to burning the CD? You need to make sure the download is correct before burning to CD.

Shit I think so man. I went ot the link badlads gave me here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/

Then I chose the second link "64-bit PC (AMD64) Desktop CD" since I have an AMD 64 x2 processor on my laptop.

It was just short of fitting on the CD though. I don't know is there another link to a version we know leads toa file that can fit ona CD?

[lxskllr]

Shit I think so man. I went ot the link badlads gave me here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/

Then I chose the second link "64-bit PC (AMD64) Desktop CD" since I have an AMD 64 x2 processor on my laptop.

It was just short of fitting on the CD though. I don't know is there another link to a version we know leads toa file that can fit ona CD?

That should work on a CD. AFAIK none of the Ubuntu variations are bigger than a CD. You could check the MD5 to make sure it didn't get corrupted during download.

[RedMacGregor]

maybe his media isn't 700mb/80 minute media...