Whistleblower: Bush admin planned the war prior to 9-11

[VBSnus]

let it go already

What's the statute of limitations on war under false pretenses? 4, 8 years?

[sgreger1]

No sgreger1, this isn't politics, this is history. Different beast all together. :wink:

It has become clear the last number of years, that the Bush administration wanted to Invade Iraq from the moment they took office. Bush wanted to defend his Dad's honor, and at the same time, and for the first time, be "better" than his dad by doing what his Dad had refused to do. Finishing the Iraq war in their mindset.

9/11 just became a convenient excuse. From the moment we first went after Afghanistan, we really were already planning Iraq. The ginned up excuses, the WMD, the fake intelligence, were all simply an after thought to justify what they had already decided to do.

I'm just pleased to hear more voices finally speaking the truth. Expect it to become a flood as more and more books come out.

And FWIW, although I may be a lefty, and don't put it past the government to be *capable* of pulling off a 9/11. I don't think that was the case. Was just a useful opportunity for Cheney.

Yah I think 9-11 just happened and they managed to somehow tie 9-11 to Iraq, despite the fact that they were two seperate things all together.

[sgreger1]

yes there was a conspiracy for sure just not by us i dont believe most of what ANY government or ANY president on alot of subjects we will never get any honest answers on any of it but I Do not believe our government had anything to do with the 9-11 attacks ( directly) i do however believe they didnt act when they should have

I think the only real wron-doing was when they waited forever to authorize scrambling the jets. NATO was effectively givena stand down order since no one approved them to dispatch jets in a timely manner.

More like letting it happen than planning the whole thing in my opinion.

[cj]

The Obama Birthers, the 9/11 Truthers, and the moon landing deniers must merge their theories

[sgreger1]

let it go already

What's the statute of limitations on war under false pretenses? 4, 8 years?

Oh, well the answer to that is .....state secrets invoked here....., now does that answer your question?

[truthwolf1]

Yes, you are talking about Sibel Edmunds. I read about her years ago but she never let any information out. She tried to inform higher ups about what she had discovered but was told to keep quiet.

If you dig you will find a lot more agents who were told the same thing. One from Minnesota named Coleen Rowley.

[sgreger1]

The Obama Birthers, the 9/11 Truthers, and the moon landing deniers must merge their theories

Haha, I need to start investing in tin foil. Seems to be a growing trend.

Birther thing is irrelevant and could never be proven anyways

We went to the moon, to fake a MISSION TO THE ****ING MOON, would involve so many tens of thousands of people that once again Ockham's razor blows this one out of the water

9-11, questions still need to be answered. I have not decided on taking any one side yet. Seems to me like they let it happen because it would benefit them, wouldn't be the first time.

[Allergy]

It's the Illuminati!!


*googly eyes*

[sgreger1]

Yes, you are talking about Sibel Edmunds. I read about her years ago but she never let any information out. She tried to inform higher ups about what she had discovered but was told to keep quiet.

If you dig you will find a lot more agents who were told the same thing. One from Minnesota named Coleen Rowley.

Either way an investigation into this will never happen. State secrets privaledge will be invoked.

This would leave a trail of blood that wreaks of both democrats and republicans. Therefore, both sides will stop any real investigation. The allegations will go unverified and fade into the pages of history as tabloid nonesense.

[lxskllr]

The Obama Birthers, the 9/11 Truthers, and the moon landing deniers must merge their theories

I think String Theory is the favored unifying theory atm :^D

[spirit72]

I'm trying very, very, *very* hard to look utterly suprised about this.

[tom502]

Faking the moon landing would only require a few people, because a rocket did go up, and circle the Earth. The video feed did not come from space, it was broadcast, not in real time, from Nasa. You can look that up.

[sgreger1]

Faking the moon landing would only require a few people, because a rocket did go up, and circle the Earth. The video feed did not come from space, it was broadcast, not in real time, from Nasa. You can look that up.

Not real time due to restrictions on communications back then.

Tracking a space shuttle is easy to do, the russians would have noted that it was just orbiting.

Would involve thousands of people who planned it and executed it. People observing the operation at NASA would know it was not on moon. People designing the mission would say "We can't pull this off"

[truthwolf1]

The Obama Birthers, the 9/11 Truthers, and the moon landing deniers must merge their theories

I think String Theory is the favored unifying theory atm :^D

I will take the String Theory over the pancake theory.

It has always been a fantasy of mine for someone to create a exact model of one of the towers and shoot a hole it and then light those floors on fire with jet fuel to see if that theory holds true.

I am not a scientist/architect or engineer so I leave all those facts or fictions for them to decide. (There are now close to 900 hundred signatures of architects/engineers for a petition for a new investigation) The hole in the pentagon story was however actually what led me into researching 911 in the first place. I thought the guy who was telling me that story was just spewing absolute craziness at the time. After researching that and everything else for the last 5 years I have become almost certain in my mind that the official story does not add up and as Americans we have been duped.
It would be really easy for me to just say really? man, what was I thinking all those years because I dont want to have this conclusion about that day but until I can debunk all of the questions it stands.

New investigation? good luck

Third party presidential win to get us where we were pre 911?
I can see that.

[VBSnus]

A commercial explained why we haven't been back to the moon, and I think it's perfectly clear now. We used to think the moon was made of cheese. In 1969 mankind landed on the moon and discovered it was only made of rock. We haven't been back since.

Behold, the power of cheese.

As for what's going on with all these conspiracies, it's perfectly clear: Schroedinger's Conspiracy Theorist Theory. If a person is placed in front of their computer with an unlimited supply of fritos, coffee, and soda for an indeterminate amount of time, they will spontaneously develop multiple contradictory theories at the same time. This quantum quasi-conspiratorial metaflux tin-foiline phenomenomatic state is maintained until the person leaves the computer, takes a shower, and finally gets laid.

I personally favor Roderick's Third Law of Snuffodynamics. Anything that can be tasted should be made into Toque Snuff.