Religious affilition, what do you believe?

[CzechCzar]

Fascinating - apparently there it is the saying in the Catholic Nicene Creed!

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_cs...hism/credo.htm

Many versions are shortened somewhat. I guess this is what must have happened!

[crullers]

^ +1

[YfirBaggari]

Never really given religion a much thought, all I know is I don't beleave in A god and I respect other peoples religious views aslong as they don't try and force it down my throat.
If you guys have the time you should watch Zeitgeist (part one (I think), about religion, It blew my mind, very interesting stuff.

I'm not a bad person even tho I don't beleave there's an afterlife, I try to treat others like I'd like to be treated.

[sandmountainslim]

Just curious: in Episcopal Churches, we say:

"I believe in the Holy Ghost
The Lord and giver of life
Who proceedeth from the Father and the Son
Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified
Who spake by the prophets.
And I believe in one holy Catholic..."

Do you know why you guys don't include the lines describing the Holy Ghost, or we do?

In Methodist churches we say it just like the Catholic guy posted. That must be another creed that the Episcopals say?

[Snotgifff]

I work in the church I grew up in. I stopped going to church when my parents stopped forcing me. Now that I work here, I see all the political BS and behind the scenes hypocritical non-sense. Large religious institutions are a joke. It's all about the money. If I told you how much our pastors made, you'd shit yourself.

[CzechCzar]

Just curious: in Episcopal Churches, we say:

"I believe in the Holy Ghost
The Lord and giver of life
Who proceedeth from the Father and the Son
Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified
Who spake by the prophets.
And I believe in one holy Catholic..."

Do you know why you guys don't include the lines describing the Holy Ghost, or we do?

[CzechCzar]

Nice link. Some call this the "opiate" I refer to it as purest form of love. Addicting? Yes. Need more and more and more. No. Can you overdose? Nope. How much is it? Free. Is it legal? Of course and it can't be taxed

A very good way of putting it!

I am Roman Catholic.

I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth
And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary
Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell
The third day he rose again from the dead
He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty
From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead
I believe in the Holy Ghost
I believe in the holy catholic church: the communion of saints
The forgiveness of sins
The resurrection of the body
And the life everlasting.

Amen.

[Frankie Reloaded]

I am Roman Catholic.

I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth
And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary
Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried: He descended into hell
The third day he rose again from the dead
He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty
From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead
I believe in the Holy Ghost
I believe in the holy catholic church: the communion of saints
The forgiveness of sins
The resurrection of the body
And the life everlasting.

[Faylool]

Nice link. Some call this the "opiate" I refer to it as purest form of love. Addicting? Yes. Need more and more and more. No. Can you overdose? Nope. How much is it? Free. Is it legal? Of course and it can't be taxed

[truthwolf1]

I believe God is in our being and it kind scares me because it's pretty potent stuff but it takes a very rare unique to the moment and unreserved effort to be aware of and have faith in it. Pretty scarey

in every case, it’s understood that this inner, transcendental reality can be directly experienced. This experience has likewise been given different names. In India traditions it is called Yoga, in BuddhismNirvana, in Islam fana, in Christianity spiritual marriage. It is a universal teaching based on a universal reality and a universal experience.

http://www.tm.org/blog/enlightenment...od-within-you/

[Faylool]

I believe God is in our being and it kind scares me because it's pretty potent stuff but it takes a very rare unique to the moment and unreserved effort to be aware of and have faith in it. Pretty scarey

[sandmountainslim]

Pretty much borderline Agnostic but I attend a United Methodist Church.

[CzechCzar]

Zimobog,

I did not ask whether you know she exists, rather, I asked whether you know she is faithful. Your limited knowledge certainly implies she is faithful, but no matter how much evidence you amass, your knowledge of her faith will never equal your knowledge that, say, 2+2=4. While the latter is what modal philosophers would call a necessary truth, the former is contingent; your wife could cheat on you tomorrow. But, you know your wife, and have faith based upon the evidence you have accumulated so far that she is true. This is akin to knowledge of God. (Coincidentally, you do not even have 100% confidence that you wife exists. She could be an illusion, or you could be dreaming.)

What evidence are you using to establish that the Bible is a "total [100%] fabrication"? Methinks this would be a difficult burden of proof to sustain.

The classical proofs of God support a monotheistic God. Only three options: Christianity, Islam, Judaism. To move to the Christian God from these three live options, you have to use historical methodology.

[littledog]

Me,i don't know nuthin' about nothin'. And furthermore i don't wanna know. Ignorance is bliss.

[Zimobog]

Czechczar, that is interesting. I dont think the "wife is cheating on you" angle works there. I mean to say, whether or not she or not is is one one thing but I have 100% proof SHE exists.

Even of the Gods are real, it says nothing to the point that the Bible is a total fabrication.

If Gods are real, Why would the christian/jewish god be assumed to be the one that "proof of god" is supporting?