Bulletproof Diet?

[crullers]

What happens if I do not have access to or cannot afford all those superb frezh-and-grassy ingredients? Will coffee with normal off-the shelf butter in my morning cup keep me working till lunch and show me the beauty of this diet, or will it just be funny tasting coffee followed by a bout of diarrhea?

Yes, coffee with a heavy cream will work. I use 18%.

[Frankie Reloaded]

What happens if I do not have access to or cannot afford all those superb frezh-and-grassy ingredients? Will coffee with normal off-the shelf butter in my morning cup keep me working till lunch and show me the beauty of this diet, or will it just be funny tasting coffee followed by a bout of diarrhea?

[devilock76]

Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen?

Ken, that's a good rule of thumb. So I would say my goal is 200lbs (185 would be better). So for 185lbs my calorie limit would be 2200? Unfortunately, my job requires me to sit on my ass all day.

Believe it or not you actually burn calories sitting on your butt. Helps if you have a job that requires a lot of thought. The more muscle you have for your body weight though you will burn even more sitting still.

Ken

[Zimobog]

I mean really who has a goal to weigh less than 100 lbs...

Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen?

Ken, that's a good rule of thumb. So I would say my goal is 200lbs (185 would be better). So for 185lbs my calorie limit would be 2200? Unfortunately, my job requires me to sit on my ass all day.

[devilock76]

That is just 5 days of dieting, Roo! That's keeping in mind I am the kind of guy who usually skips breakfast, eats a huge "business" lunch full of fat, fries, fried bread, ketchup, and cola and then eats a lot of meat and potatoes at home at night plus ice cream or several bowls of cereal before bed. I also went from being a construction worker to being a estimator/manager at the same company five years ago so I went from 185lbs to almost 250lbs over that period. Not good at all!

Cutting back to the estimated 1600 calories, five days of like a gallon of clean water and eliminating the carbs and sugars is what kicked it off. And yeah, not hungry at all anymore. So I created a major deficit by cutting myself off from the cereal or ice cream after dark and now have to eat breakfast, plus no more fried potatoes and bread.

I suspect there will be a plateu somewhere, but apparently the way around it (been reading the bodybuilding forums on this) is to have a "cheat week" when the weight loss stops and then head back into the diet.

I once lost 30lbs in 30 days just by going to 1000 calories a day and drinking a shitload of water. Course, I felt like crap for 30 days like I was weak as a kitten the whole time. This has been a much nicer transition.

The basic rule of thumb is to take your goal weight times 12 and that should be your daily calorie intake to achieve that goal weight. Granted daily physical activity can vary that. Also it is usually never recommended to go below 1200 calories a day, no matter what that multiplier of 12 comes out to. I mean really who has a goal to weigh less than 100 lbs...

Ken

[Zimobog]

Dang nice work Zimobog. What kind of time frame does that represent? And, that meal you made sound fkng fantastic. I love salmon and feel so lucky to live where I do. The only better scenario for salmon eating would be yours lol. Awesome man.

That is just 5 days of dieting, Roo! That's keeping in mind I am the kind of guy who usually skips breakfast, eats a huge "business" lunch full of fat, fries, fried bread, ketchup, and cola and then eats a lot of meat and potatoes at home at night plus ice cream or several bowls of cereal before bed. I also went from being a construction worker to being a estimator/manager at the same company five years ago so I went from 185lbs to almost 250lbs over that period. Not good at all!

Cutting back to the estimated 1600 calories, five days of like a gallon of clean water and eliminating the carbs and sugars is what kicked it off. And yeah, not hungry at all anymore. So I created a major deficit by cutting myself off from the cereal or ice cream after dark and now have to eat breakfast, plus no more fried potatoes and bread.

I suspect there will be a plateu somewhere, but apparently the way around it (been reading the bodybuilding forums on this) is to have a "cheat week" when the weight loss stops and then head back into the diet.

I once lost 30lbs in 30 days just by going to 1000 calories a day and drinking a shitload of water. Course, I felt like crap for 30 days like I was weak as a kitten the whole time. This has been a much nicer transition.

[Roo]

Dang nice work Zimobog. What kind of time frame does that represent? And, that meal you made sound fkng fantastic. I love salmon and feel so lucky to live where I do. The only better scenario for salmon eating would be yours lol. Awesome man.

[Zimobog]

The big thing I always found with low carb is it kept hunger off well. It can be satisfying. I always found it best to do a lot of chef salad type meals, particularly with a lot of spinach lettuce. One thing most low carb critics miss is most low carb systems you are encouraged to get your carbs from green leafy vegetables and you can have as much of them as you want a day. Thankfully I LOVE spinach.

Ken

Yeah, spinach is the best salad green. I haven't ever been an iceberg lettuce fan. When you are getting carbs as cellulose the fiber cancels it out. I only counted calories one day just to see where I was coming in at. I was around 1,600 for the day.


Last night I had coho salmon I dipnetted myself right down on the Kenai with butter/lemon/parsley sauce and brussels sprouts cooked with bacon. Awesome!

Roo, not trying to butt in, but yeah you can eat cheese on that diet if it's whole milk (not 2% or low fat). It says to avoid pasturized cheese on the website but good luck finding that short of producing it yourself here in the land of anti-raw milk nazism. I have been using goat cheese and blue cheese daily mainly just to get the fat counts up.

I am new to the diet (but a natural born fanatic) and the results have been so far: 248lbs on the first day, this morning I weighed in at 232lbs. Both were taken before breakfast in my skivvies.

[devilock76]

Well spoken, Ken.

Today my girlfriend starts a diet called the "whole 30". I would call it another fad diet, but the way she described it makes it seem pretty sensible. The idea is to cut all carbs and sugar and grains and such, as well as alcohol, and just eat meat and eggs and vegetables for 30 days. Yes you will lose weight, but the more important goal is to figure out which foods make you fat, tired, constipated... whatever you aren't happy with that is a result of your diet. After the 30 days you will have a much better understanding of how the things you eat affect your overall health and well-being, then you can add back normal foods at your discretion.

I'm going to do it because 1) I have nothing to lose but this gut and 2) she does most of the cooking now that we have a baby and she stays home with her. I am not doing the whole "whole 30" though, as I will be staying true to my booze after work, but what I will do is give up beer for 30 days. I drink shitloads of beer and it obviously makes me fat. Hell I probably double my calories every day with the beer I drink. (maybe 40% but shit that's a lot). SO I bought a half gallon of gin at costco yesterday lol. Anyway, I'm sure I will still lose weight.

I will continue running 3 miles 3 times a week. I wish I could do more than that, but I learned the hard way that my leg bones can't handle more running than 4 times a week max, as I got tiny stress fractures on Both legs a couple years ago from over-running. Had to use a cain for months haha, it sucked.

Czech Czar, if you're still reading this post, do you eat cheese on that diet of yours?

I know the leg pain well. I was a track and distance runner through high school up until a knee injury senior year. I have taken small forays back into running here and there. It is a sport that can really beat you up. I will say though I got into barefoot running for a bit and once you get over the foreignness of it to our pampered American feet you can find it very comfortable very quick. Although my neighbors gave me a lot of stares seeing me running on the street barefoot. One thing I did before running any route barefoot though was I would walk it first barefoot to keep an eye out for things that would represent a puncture injury.

Ken

[Roo]

One other thing, EVERYONE is different, and although there are general rules that are scientific fact how well any person does with a certain diet and/or exercise program can greatly vary depending on other medical conditions unique to them. Hence why nothing I say on the subject should be considered an endorsement or recommendation, merely a reflection of my own personal findings of what has worked well for me.

Well spoken, Ken.

Today my girlfriend starts a diet called the "whole 30". I would call it another fad diet, but the way she described it makes it seem pretty sensible. The idea is to cut all carbs and sugar and grains and such, as well as alcohol, and just eat meat and eggs and vegetables for 30 days. Yes you will lose weight, but the more important goal is to figure out which foods make you fat, tired, constipated... whatever you aren't happy with that is a result of your diet. After the 30 days you will have a much better understanding of how the things you eat affect your overall health and well-being, then you can add back normal foods at your discretion.

I'm going to do it because 1) I have nothing to lose but this gut and 2) she does most of the cooking now that we have a baby and she stays home with her. I am not doing the whole "whole 30" though, as I will be staying true to my booze after work, but what I will do is give up beer for 30 days. I drink shitloads of beer and it obviously makes me fat. Hell I probably double my calories every day with the beer I drink. (maybe 40% but shit that's a lot). SO I bought a half gallon of gin at costco yesterday lol. Anyway, I'm sure I will still lose weight.

I will continue running 3 miles 3 times a week. I wish I could do more than that, but I learned the hard way that my leg bones can't handle more running than 4 times a week max, as I got tiny stress fractures on Both legs a couple years ago from over-running. Had to use a cain for months haha, it sucked.

Czech Czar, if you're still reading this post, do you eat cheese on that diet of yours?

[devilock76]

So far changing the old carb diet out for fats and protein has been pretty easy. Since i love red meat, bacon and eggs, and eating what I catch and kill.

This summer, I can see I need to pick more berries than usual. Berries cost like $6 a handful in Alaska in the winter. I am eating three or four berries when I crave a sweet.

The big thing I always found with low carb is it kept hunger off well. It can be satisfying. I always found it best to do a lot of chef salad type meals, particularly with a lot of spinach lettuce. One thing most low carb critics miss is most low carb systems you are encouraged to get your carbs from green leafy vegetables and you can have as much of them as you want a day. Thankfully I LOVE spinach.

Ken

[devilock76]

Cardio is overrated for losing fat. I did very thorough cardio for several years (ordered by my doctor - either this or beta-blockers), my pulse went down by a lot (from 100+ to 70+, maybe 80+ now when I am getting sloppy/tired of endless cycling), but I did not lose weight. I am still as overweight I was before starting working out. Only my heart benefited.

Cardio is about improving your Cardiovascular system, that is it, anyone selling you something otherwise is lying. Also trudging cardio of hours on a tread mill or a bike or elliptical are a waste as well. Most athletes in sports related to cardio don't do cardio like that to prepare, they do high intensity interval training (google it for a full description). That includes marathon runners, they don't train everyday with running a marathon or more, they do shorter distances at higher intensity.

Now granted many cardio activities can burn more calories than certain others. But let us take running. High end at a good pace a 30 minute running session I think will burn 300-500 calories. If you can run that pace for that long you are probably already in pretty darn good shape as it is. Most people at the pace they can do will burn more like 200-250 calories. That is not far from having just one less cookie in a day. Fact is exercising only for calorie burn is a waste as it is always easier to change the calorie ratio with diet than it is exercise.

Exercise should be done to change the body and as such an adaptive response. One of the best ways to really burn fat is to weight lift. I lifted with an HIT routine for a while. Great results. You challenge the muscles to adapt. In adapting you add muscle fiber/weight which is denser than fat. But more muscle tissue means your body burns more calories even at rest. Also workouts should be short, but at an intensity/work load that creates an adaptive response, so hypertrophy of the muscles can occur, and then allows enough recovery to prevent injuries. Overtraining can be a lot worse than under training.

That all being said I have moved away from lifting. Great workout but I was seeing holes in my program that I could not sort out. I ended up finding of all things a yoga program designed by a former professional wrestler (I reference like that so others can google it but I am not allowing my words to be used as an endorsement). Frankly it is one of the best workouts I have had, and I feel really good on it with good recovery rates and lower injury rates than lifting. I will say lifting had better results, but there was a price for that.

One other thing, EVERYONE is different, and although there are general rules that are scientific fact how well any person does with a certain diet and/or exercise program can greatly vary depending on other medical conditions unique to them. Hence why nothing I say on the subject should be considered an endorsement or recommendation, merely a reflection of my own personal findings of what has worked well for me.

Ken

[devilock76]

Okay. I hear you and agree on both points.

However, as with anything you always learn something new from the last time they came around. Some things like gluten, omega 3's, grass fed meat, fish oil etc.. We are learning as we go and possibly making some mistakes.

I try to keep things simple. I try not to lecture as the fact of the matter is I am more of an ectomorph body type as what works for me does not work for all.

Anyway I keep some simple rules for me, I tend to shop around the edge of the store, I tend to cook myself and not use too much convenience food. I limit my processed grain, etc. But I also don't go nuts about organic and grass fed this and that. I got a family of 5 too feed and well "ain't nobody got time for that!" hehehehhe

Ken

[Zimobog]

So far changing the old carb diet out for fats and protein has been pretty easy. Since i love red meat, bacon and eggs, and eating what I catch and kill.

This summer, I can see I need to pick more berries than usual. Berries cost like $6 a handful in Alaska in the winter. I am eating three or four berries when I crave a sweet.

[Frankie Reloaded]

Eat smart fellas, hit the cardio, and lose some poundage.

Cardio is overrated for losing fat. I did very thorough cardio for several years (ordered by my doctor - either this or beta-blockers), my pulse went down by a lot (from 100+ to 70+, maybe 80+ now when I am getting sloppy/tired of endless cycling), but I did not lose weight. I am still as overweight I was before starting working out. Only my heart benefited.