Bulletproof Diet?

[devilock76]

Thanks for the unprovoked insult.

I really did not intend it as an insult. The "you" was meant more like a one so sorry if that is a confusion.

And the fact is we are all here on a tobacco forum, and many here for harm reduction. Some would say we all have a will power issue, myself included.

Human's in general are not naturally predisposed to the concept of will power. Like every other animal short term rewards drive many of our desires. If it feels good then we tend to keep doing it.

Ken

[devilock76]

That's the thing! It's NOT as simple as calories out vs calories in. I am eating 2500 calories a day, and losing a lot of weight per week. This protocol, which I have no doubt works, is for the seriously obese, and has them eating 4500+ calories per day. Your body needs calories, saturated fats, healthy proteins, to live properly. When you are eating intelligently, it doesn't matter how much you eat. Caloric restriction is the worst way to lose weight, because you are literally starving your body.

How much you eat is not the only part of the equation. There are many factors to it and no one can deny quality of calories amounts to sustainable and healthy something is. But if you care to deny the simple equation of it we can test this easily. Just provide current height weight and activity level and I will pick a minimum calorie number per day. You choose the food source and if you still lose weight meeting my number with no activity change then I will concede the point.

Till then in the end the reason certain non-calorie counting plans work is they tend to lean on more satisfying food sources. Proteins and fats will keep you feeling full longer and proteins take longer to digest and force your body to process more water. 100 calories of bacon, or ice cream, or spinach is still 100 calories. However how long each satisfies you is what will vary.

Ken

[CzechCzar]

Thanks for the unprovoked insult.

True, but then you are not paying for the weight loss, you are paying for mnemonic device to compensate lack of will power.

Ken

[CzechCzar]

That's the thing! It's NOT as simple as calories out vs calories in. I am eating 2500 calories a day, and losing a lot of weight per week. This protocol, which I have no doubt works, is for the seriously obese, and has them eating 4500+ calories per day. Your body needs calories, saturated fats, healthy proteins, to live properly. When you are eating intelligently, it doesn't matter how much you eat. Caloric restriction is the worst way to lose weight, because you are literally starving your body.

Yes, I guess I should have just stuck to something that was bad info instead of double checking a counter point and admitting I was mistaken. That is a death knell for credibility, unless you are a politician...

I will take my personal health and results as my credibility, maybe it is genetics, maybe not, but I know I didn't have to dump money in some plan with a catchy name...

And keep in mind I have not once in any of this recommended anything directly that would be a business or plan. My usual line with any diet and exercise regime is YMMV, consult your doctor, and in the end you cannot escape the simple equation of calories out vs calories in.

Ken

[truthwolf1]

Sorry Ken You've lost all credibility at this point. I Myself have lost 20lbs in the last year. Just stopped eating that much at one sitting and eating smaller portions more often.

This is a good point.

I am sure Paleo man grazed on what he could find during the day verses sitting down and feasting 2 meals a day like most people do.

[devilock76]

Sorry Ken You've lost all credibility at this point. I Myself have lost 20lbs in the last year. Just stopped eating that much at one sitting and eating smaller portions more often.

Yes, I guess I should have just stuck to something that was bad info instead of double checking a counter point and admitting I was mistaken. That is a death knell for credibility, unless you are a politician...

I will take my personal health and results as my credibility, maybe it is genetics, maybe not, but I know I didn't have to dump money in some plan with a catchy name...

And keep in mind I have not once in any of this recommended anything directly that would be a business or plan. My usual line with any diet and exercise regime is YMMV, consult your doctor, and in the end you cannot escape the simple equation of calories out vs calories in.

Ken

[devilock76]

Well, yeah. But for some of us, without some program, it's difficult to self-regulate

True, but then you are not paying for the weight loss, you are paying for mnemonic device to compensate lack of will power.

Ken

[devilock76]

Why did you direct that comment at me? I am not debating between any diets, nor am I following any diet. I am not eating grains, starches and sugars. That's all. If you want to call that Atkins, or Paleo, or whatever, I don't give a shit. I don't call it anything. I am not buying any special products, just cooking and eating good healthy food and skipping the carbs. Down 17 lbs in 30 days. Why are you shitting on everyone's diet regimens, no matter what they decide to do or whose advise to follow? I'm not going to read the thread again, but I don't recall anyone advising anyone else on how or what to eat, just discussing personal experiences.

And what is ironic about debating between Coke and Pepsi?

Probably because you start off with a "fk Atkins" and end with saying something is "paleo-friendly"

Ken

[Bigblue1]

Bottom line is all alcohol metabolizes to sugar in the body. Atkins specifically forbid alcohol in the induction phase.

Ken

It seems you are correct. Now I am trying to remember where I got that information from years ago and apparently it was a bad source... always check your sources...

Ken

Sorry Ken You've lost all credibility at this point. I Myself have lost 20lbs in the last year. Just stopped eating that much at one sitting and eating smaller portions more often.

[rickcharles606]

So much information here, Bulletproof has great info and I have based a lot of my method on it. I have nothing but thanks to the Czech for sharing.

agreed, he has taken a lot of his time to put this info together and share it with us....thanks, Brother

[Zimobog]

So much information here, Bulletproof has great info and I have based a lot of my method on it. I have nothing but thanks to the Czech for sharing.

[rickcharles606]

Okay, all. Let's stay on topic and refrain from any personal attacks (not that there have been any) or poo-pooing anyone's diet regimen. If you're not interested in this particular diet...move along, nothing to see here. Thanks

Rick

[Skell18]

I get naked, just saying.

[Roo]

Really paleo, atkins, and this new "thing" are all cut from the same cloth. Debating between them is like debating between Coke and Pepsi, which is ironic when you think about it.

Ken

Why did you direct that comment at me? I am not debating between any diets, nor am I following any diet. I am not eating grains, starches and sugars. That's all. If you want to call that Atkins, or Paleo, or whatever, I don't give a shit. I don't call it anything. I am not buying any special products, just cooking and eating good healthy food and skipping the carbs. Down 17 lbs in 30 days. Why are you shitting on everyone's diet regimens, no matter what they decide to do or whose advise to follow? I'm not going to read the thread again, but I don't recall anyone advising anyone else on how or what to eat, just discussing personal experiences.

And what is ironic about debating between Coke and Pepsi?

[CzechCzar]

Well, yeah. But for some of us, without some program, it's difficult to self-regulate