Religious beliefs

[Crow]

raised Catholic. Now a Pastafarian.


Hail Marinara

Hail Marinara,
Full of Spice,
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is filled with thee.
Tasty art thou amongst sauces,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy jar, tomatoes
(although fools believe they are vegetables).
Holy Marinara,
Chief Amongst Toppings,
Save a plate for us now,
and at about 6 o’clock when dinner is served, if you would be so kind.
RAmen.

[Bigblue1]

raised Catholic. Now a Pastafarian.


Hail Marinara

Hail Marinara,
Full of Spice,
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is filled with thee.
Tasty art thou amongst sauces,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy jar, tomatoes
(although fools believe they are vegetables).
Holy Marinara,
Chief Amongst Toppings,
Save a plate for us now,
and at about 6 o’clock when dinner is served, if you would be so kind.
RAmen.

In other words I don't believe I can pray for special favors and they will just happen. No matter how many times like many other things it has happened to PP. Actually I wonder what PP's version of God is actually like. I mean does he condone fleshlights and Blue barrels. I mean if your just gonna make it up as you go along and say well I go to church that means I'm saved but frick the rules the rest of the time, you may as well just not believe in anything.

[Crow]

Skillet summed it up nicely. Morality has nothing to do with there being a deity. Sure, there are some good things to follow in the Christian bible, as there are in the Torah, or in Buddhist sutras, or Sanskrit verses, and so on... But that alone doesn't prove a deity.

[lxskllr]

1: Absent God, objective moral values and duties do not (and cannot) exist.
2: Objective moral values and duties do exist (some actions, like, say, rape of children, or the Holocaust, are really, truly wrong, objectively (i.e., regardless of how anyone feels about them).
Conclusion: Therefore, God (a deistic God) exists.

I don't understand the connection between "God" and morals. It's wrong to inflict discomfort on other creatures. It doesn't take deep thought to figure that out. "God" says nothing about kicking my cat, but it's wrong because it makes her life worse. I didn't get that out of a book, or anything else. If anyone needs a book to figure that out, then I'd call them defective, and they should probably be locked away, or killed before they negatively affect anyone else.

[CzechCzar]

Love love LOVE this video. I have always been a Christian (of the Episcopalian variety) but never really took my faith seriously until I started watching William Lane Craig absolutely obliterate his atheistic opponents in debate after debate, and reading scholarly works by Christians, Jews, and atheists, about the New Testament. CRAZY SHART right there.

For all you atheists and agnostics out there, I would pose the following argument, called the Moral Argument.

1: Absent God, objective moral values and duties do not (and cannot) exist.
2: Objective moral values and duties do exist (some actions, like, say, rape of children, or the Holocaust, are really, truly wrong, objectively (i.e., regardless of how anyone feels about them).
Conclusion: Therefore, God (a deistic God) exists.

I actually participated in a debate about this subject last weekend, and once the TV station gets done with it, I'll post it on youtube, and link to it here. This argument, if successful, does not get us to a Christian God (the life, ministry, death, and resurrection of Jesus is needed for this) but it does get you to a general, deistic God.

I am curious: what do you all make of this argument? Theists and atheists alike, please respond!

[devilock76]

Raised Presbyterian, grandfather was a minister. Educational background strong in the sciences. I believe religions can bring a sense of well being to some and offera general moral fortitude. However I have little tolerance for dogma and put more stock in the things of the physical world that can pass the scie tific method.

Ken

[precious007]

Snusist !

LMAO

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You are as old as dirt!

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you found her. isn't she sweet



I think its time for a samwich

[Crow]

I think I've got about half of one leftover in my freezer.:0

As long as it's been declared Kosher... D:

[wa3zrm]

Not only do I remember the Captain I can even remember Miss Frances. Can you?

You are as old as dirt!

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A complex answer to a complex question....

If you want me to specify a specific religion (school of thought), I would tell you Judaism.

But, I follow what we've discovered through science. So, I also believe in evolution and the like. I suppose you could label me Agnostic.

..... I guess that makes me half a Jew

I think I've got about half of one leftover in my freezer.:0


I'm not sure shes a Jew really. She didn't taste Kosher to me.

[Crow]

A complex answer to a complex question....

If you want me to specify a specific religion (school of thought), I would tell you Judaism.

But, I follow what we've discovered through science. So, I also believe in evolution and the like. I suppose you could label me Agnostic.

..... I guess that makes me half a Jew

[LordJ]

I'm Houstonian. I believe the children are our future. And I smoke crack.

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Not only do I remember the Captain I can even remember Miss Frances. Can you?

[wa3zrm]

Exactly........
thats "The Real McCoy"

Then you must remember the Captain?