Did aliens or God create the human race?

[devilock76]

What that got to do with Romanian education?

I've studied in Norway and Holland by the way lol

If I have to explain it, then it further validates my point...

Ken

[precious007]

I feel like we are subsidizing the Romanian education system... all in this here forum...

Ken

What that got to do with Romanian education?

I've studied in Norway and Holland by the way lol

[devilock76]

Absolutely, pretty much every culture had slaves up until present day lol. There are in fact more slaves today than at any point in history, though that is only because the population has increased so one could say there are more X than any point in history for just about anything.

But yah there were slaves in Egypt and all the surrounding areas as well.

I feel like we are subsidizing the Romanian education system... all in this here forum...

Ken

[sgreger1]

Were there slaves in the ancient Egypt?

Never heard of it.... maybe I'm wrong

Absolutely, pretty much every culture had slaves up until present day lol. There are in fact more slaves today than at any point in history, though that is only because the population has increased so one could say there are more X than any point in history for just about anything.

But yah there were slaves in Egypt and all the surrounding areas as well.

[precious007]

Were there slaves in the ancient Egypt?

Never heard of it.... maybe I'm wrong

[devilock76]

I thought last I heard the historians decided that slaves weren't the ones who built it due to the lack of labor camps etc? For some reason I recall hearing that it was just a big government project that paid people to do it and that slaves didn't play any significant role in it like was previously thought. Is that not true?

Well literally no, but figuratively yes as the subjects were required to participate in this homage to their holy ruler. Like the site precious linked states they were probably more peasant farmers from the kingdom than true captured against their will slaves. But in figurative terms they just about amounted to slave labor for this task.

Ken

[sgreger1]

That plus a great deal of slave labor...

Ken

I thought last I heard the historians decided that slaves weren't the ones who built it due to the lack of labor camps etc? For some reason I recall hearing that it was just a big government project that paid people to do it and that slaves didn't play any significant role in it like was previously thought. Is that not true?

[sgreger1]

Not only that, but a pyramid is kiddie engineering. That's the easiest way to build something big. A 1000' tower would impress me more.

Oh I don't think you are giving them due credit considering they did this almost 10k years ago. I mean just understanding the math necessary to chart this thing out, and then not really having much of a literate population or anything but still pulling it off without slave labor is pretty damn impressive for the time period.

[precious007]

Ever move a building? I have. Nothing major, about a 20x10 foot shed. We jacked it up, built a simple wood sled under it and rolled it on PVC pipes using a tractor and sweat. In the absence of modern devices a lever, domesticated draft animals, slaves and logs could easily do the same task, even scaled up to a 20 ton rock.

Ken

I can imagine... 100,000 men worked over a period of 20 years to build a pyramid -

there's some explanations here, http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/exhib.../egca12e.shtml

thought they say the exact method they used to built the pyramids is still under question .....

[devilock76]

Ever move a building? I have. Nothing major, about a 20x10 foot shed. We jacked it up, built a simple wood sled under it and rolled it on PVC pipes using a tractor and sweat. In the absence of modern devices a lever, domesticated draft animals, slaves and logs could easily do the same task, even scaled up to a 20 ton rock.

Ken

that explains it ... but those HUGE blocks of stone how where they actually cut and brought right in the construction site?

that should have been an insane labor

[precious007]

Simple machines. Levers, wheels, ramps... There's a lot of ways to get things done without mechanization.

that explains it ... but those HUGE blocks of stone how where they actually cut and brought right in the construction site?

that should have been an insane labor

[devilock76]

Simple machines. Levers, wheels, ramps... There's a lot of ways to get things done without mechanization.

That plus a great deal of slave labor...

Ken

[lxskllr]

I'm with you darwin on this one, but how exactly did they build them ......... with bare hands?

Simple machines. Levers, wheels, ramps... There's a lot of ways to get things done without mechanization.

[precious007]

I'm with you darwin on this one, but how exactly did they build them ......... with bare hands?

[lxskllr]

Ancient Egyptian society was perfectly capable of building the pyramids and many other massive monuments. And aligning pyramids in a north-south direction was easy since they were aware of the star Polaris which at the time was almost perfectly true north and did not move in the night sky thus having special astrological significance. What would have been really amazing is if they had aligned pyramids with magnetic north. The only influences they needed were their own cultural peculiarities. Aliens shmaliens.

Not only that, but a pyramid is kiddie engineering. That's the easiest way to build something big. A 1000' tower would impress me more.