Why GNU/Linux Rocks

[sgreger1]

I'd recommend giving Arch a go on a normal machine first, unless the Raspberry Pi people provide an install image specifically made for them. Just a basic Arch install can be a bit intense if you haven't done anything like it before. It becomes much worse when you're trying to do largely unsupported features, like install to ARM and have everything work the same way. Technically there is an ARM version of Arch, but it's under-developed compared to i686 or x86_64 versions, and likely won't have many of the drivers needed for the Raspberry Pi's hardware without resorting to some clever moves.

Edit: And for the record, it was the size of your hard drive causing the issues, not your graphics card.

Okay maybe I will stick with Fedora ARM than since I have at some some experience with that.

What is the best mail client in your opinion? I am about to set one up for all my email addys and was wondering if I should just use the default one (Evolution).

[sgreger1]

Edit: And for the record, it was the size of your hard drive causing the issues, not your graphics card.

Well we spent a lot of the time undoing the damage done by me having downloaded certain drivers and that one desktop (compiz orsomething), but yah the hard drive size was ultimately the issue that led to me switching to Fedora. So stupid that one of the most widely used distros is so behind so as to make it near impossible to make it work with 3TB of disk space.

[devilock76]

See the thing is for the same price I can get a new battery for a netbook I have that won't hold a charge.

Ken

[shikitohno]

I'd recommend giving Arch a go on a normal machine first, unless the Raspberry Pi people provide an install image specifically made for them. Just a basic Arch install can be a bit intense if you haven't done anything like it before. It becomes much worse when you're trying to do largely unsupported features, like install to ARM and have everything work the same way. Technically there is an ARM version of Arch, but it's under-developed compared to i686 or x86_64 versions, and likely won't have many of the drivers needed for the Raspberry Pi's hardware without resorting to some clever moves.

Edit: And for the record, it was the size of your hard drive causing the issues, not your graphics card.

[sgreger1]

I just put in a pre-order at that site. I guess we'll see how soon it ships out. As an anime and manga fan, I've learned to deal with pre-orders. I've seen too many series I liked dropped midway through because people all said, "Well, I don't really need it now. I guess I'll just wait until the price drops a bit..." With that experience, if I really want something, I'll jusr preorder right away. Now, to get install images for other distros. I remember seeing that Fedora, Debian and Arch were going to be supported out of the box, and I'd rather ditch Fedora in favour of Arch, if for no reason other than consistency. Guess I'll also have to look into buying/building a case for this thing.

As for this threads activity, I guess I'd chalk it up to Linux and snus both attracting the oddballs of any groups, to a certain extent. This thread would also be about 9 pages shorter if it weren't for the incredible failure that was sgreger1's first forays into Linux with Ubuntu. There's a good 4 or 5 pages of lx and I trying to make it work for him, followed by another 4 or so lx valiantly continuing the battle while I beat my head against the wall saying, "Ubuntu won't work. It's impossible."

So more than half of this thread is basically just the three of us nerding out on the rest of the board.

Lol, yah up until like 5 pages ago the whole thread was just me failing at installing Ubuntu, while shikki screamed from a local rooftop how my graphics drivers were mucking up the whole thing and to just try Fedora. Then about 3 posts on me installing Fedora and everything working great. Worth it though, i'm glad I finally took the plunge, i'm on my linux boot right now. I want to try archlinux so I may try that once the Pi comes out, just because I don't know by how much they will strip down Fedora. I imagine arch will be much more lightweight regardless of how much they strip fedora and on the Pi i don't care about the OS that much, gotta save space and processor speed for actually using the damn thing so Arch will probably be the better of the two choices.

As far as the case, they are making one that will come out in the summer, you can buy one from them. I figure it will survive until them, plus i'm sure a few commercial versions of a case will pop up eventually as well.


Edit: Also, for those wondering, if you buy a Raspberry Pi right now, I and everyone else just got an email that says it will be delivered on 5/10/12. So expect that wait baby!

[Los ßnus]

I just put in a pre-order at that site. I guess we'll see how soon it ships out. As an anime and manga fan, I've learned to deal with pre-orders. I've seen too many series I liked dropped midway through because people all said, "Well, I don't really need it now. I guess I'll just wait until the price drops a bit..." With that experience, if I really want something, I'll jusr preorder right away. Now, to get install images for other distros. I remember seeing that Fedora, Debian and Arch were going to be supported out of the box, and I'd rather ditch Fedora in favour of Arch, if for no reason other than consistency. Guess I'll also have to look into buying/building a case for this thing.

As for this threads activity, I guess I'd chalk it up to Linux and snus both attracting the oddballs of any groups, to a certain extent. This thread would also be about 9 pages shorter if it weren't for the incredible failure that was sgreger1's first forays into Linux with Ubuntu. There's a good 4 or 5 pages of lx and I trying to make it work for him, followed by another 4 or so lx valiantly continuing the battle while I beat my head against the wall saying, "Ubuntu won't work. It's impossible."

So more than half of this thread is basically just the three of us nerding out on the rest of the board.

and I thought smokeless tobacco was only for hillbillies!

I did notice however that mr sgreger makes up about half the posts in this thread. good to see people so excited about linux!

[shikitohno]

I just put in a pre-order at that site. I guess we'll see how soon it ships out. As an anime and manga fan, I've learned to deal with pre-orders. I've seen too many series I liked dropped midway through because people all said, "Well, I don't really need it now. I guess I'll just wait until the price drops a bit..." With that experience, if I really want something, I'll jusr preorder right away. Now, to get install images for other distros. I remember seeing that Fedora, Debian and Arch were going to be supported out of the box, and I'd rather ditch Fedora in favour of Arch, if for no reason other than consistency. Guess I'll also have to look into buying/building a case for this thing.

As for this threads activity, I guess I'd chalk it up to Linux and snus both attracting the oddballs of any groups, to a certain extent. This thread would also be about 9 pages shorter if it weren't for the incredible failure that was sgreger1's first forays into Linux with Ubuntu. There's a good 4 or 5 pages of lx and I trying to make it work for him, followed by another 4 or so lx valiantly continuing the battle while I beat my head against the wall saying, "Ubuntu won't work. It's impossible."

So more than half of this thread is basically just the three of us nerding out on the rest of the board.

[Los ßnus]

I find it pretty damn funny that this is one of the most active threads I see on this forum besides "what's in your x?"
Linux, **** Yeah!

now I gotta decide, should I buy less snus and a pi or should I buy a fat order of snus and not buy the pi cause I have no practical use for one. I still want one tho lol.

[devilock76]

I take it back, I just got an email from them. The $20 charge they had orriginally has been removed. Flat $35 price now. Sweet!

Hmmm, resist presale, know I got one soon, resist presale, know I get one soon...

Resist presale wins for now. Just put in a big snus order so maybe next month. I have no urgent needs for new computer hardware at this moment anyway.

Ken

[sgreger1]

I take it back, I just got an email from them. The $20 charge they had orriginally has been removed. Flat $35 price now. Sweet!

[devilock76]

I just purchased on about 30 min ago, the $20 is added on during checkout for all Us customers.


As for the pre-order, the thing is that this is a non-profit so they have to use sales to fund the production of these. They are manufacturing them as they are purchased, so the manufacturer is only making the amount of models that are being purchased at any given time. Therefore it will be a while before the company has enough money to keep an inventory of these things and you will have to pay first in the meantime.

The company making them maybe, but not the companies actually selling them, my dislike of pre-order still remains. At least unlike OLPC I don't have to buy two to get 1.

Ken

[sgreger1]

Seems to indicate $35 on the table.

I personally dislike pre-order. I mean first of all this is not a need item so why give a company an interest free loan.

Ken

I just purchased on about 30 min ago, the $20 is added on during checkout for all Us customers.


As for the pre-order, the thing is that this is a non-profit so they have to use sales to fund the production of these. They are manufacturing them as they are purchased, so the manufacturer is only making the amount of models that are being purchased at any given time. Therefore it will be a while before the company has enough money to keep an inventory of these things and you will have to pay first in the meantime.

[devilock76]

For those in the US who want one, you can order it now (they are built to order) from this link:

http://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/r...43?Ntt=83T1943

It's $55 because it's $20 shipping as it comes from the UK from what I understand. This is essentially a pre-order for the next batch, which should get to their warehouse on 3/30 and comes with 2-3 day shipping.

Seems to indicate $35 on the table.

I personally dislike pre-order. I mean first of all this is not a need item so why give a company an interest free loan.

Ken

[sgreger1]

For those in the US who want one, you can order it now (they are built to order) from this link:

http://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/r...43?Ntt=83T1943

It's $55 because it's $20 shipping as it comes from the UK from what I understand. This is essentially a pre-order for the next batch, which should get to their warehouse on 3/30 and comes with 2-3 day shipping.

[devilock76]

I wouldn't let this put you off. I knew it was going to be a clusterfsck. That's one reason I wasn't excited to get in early. It's like people trying to grab $100 TouchPads. There was just too much hype surrounding it. Let the frenzy die down, and the early adopters figure out cool things to do, and get in on the next batch. The supply system will be tweaked, and it should go a lot smoother.

Yeah, I know, still aggravated that they couldn't even get an email out to those of us who signed up to get THAT VERY FREAKING EMAIL!!!

Ken