Google Plus, facebook killer

[devilock76]

The difference between Status Updates and Wall Posts is on the recipient's side. For instance, if I post a status update on my wall, it's the same as a wall post. However, if I see it's your birthday and post a message on YOUR wall wishing you happy birthday, everyone of your friends sees the post (and hopefully comments with their own happy birthday message). Google+ on the other hand does not allow me to do that. I could post a happy birthday to you on my circle and people in my circle will see it, but yours won't I believe.

But if I tag you in a status update it does the same thing. I think I explained that poorly at the start of my rant and better at the end. I like my posts to show evolution. Maybe one day I will get opposable thumbs and lose this pesky tail!

Ken

[CoderGuy]

If you post to Extended Circles it will be seen by your circles, and your friends circles. That's about the closest thing to a Facebook wall post I can think of.

The rub is "will be seen by your circles". Most time when I post to someone's wall on FB, I don't particularly want MY friends to see the post. G+ seems to be missing that "one" piece.

[muddyfunkstar]

The difference between Status Updates and Wall Posts is on the recipient's side. For instance, if I post a status update on my wall, it's the same as a wall post. However, if I see it's your birthday and post a message on YOUR wall wishing you happy birthday, everyone of your friends sees the post (and hopefully comments with their own happy birthday message). Google+ on the other hand does not allow me to do that. I could post a happy birthday to you on my circle and people in my circle will see it, but yours won't I believe.

If you post to Extended Circles it will be seen by your circles, and your friends circles. That's about the closest thing to a Facebook wall post I can think of.

[CoderGuy]

It is nice, but it is not. First of all it is a pet peeve of mine and several friends that there are a couple of area promoters that like to hijack post on your wall. Where as they promote events by writing on your wall to spread it to your friends that aren't there friends. One of them actually has a team of people that does this and atleast have been kind enough to keep a list of people who don't appreciate it. It is that or making it so no one can post to your wall.

In general I don't necessary get the separation between status updates and wall posts. I mean I understand the differences but not the why's advantages. Especially with being able to tag people in status updates, notes, comments etc. If you want everyone to be able to see something but want a person to have special attention with it then you tag them. Tagging them effectively puts it on there wall in FB.

And here is the thing, tagging someone in G+ does the same. So it is a better analog for the wall. Tagging and wall posts are kind of redundant. G+ also allows you granular control of who can tag you and how (requires approval, and on what).

Ken

The difference between Status Updates and Wall Posts is on the recipient's side. For instance, if I post a status update on my wall, it's the same as a wall post. However, if I see it's your birthday and post a message on YOUR wall wishing you happy birthday, everyone of your friends sees the post (and hopefully comments with their own happy birthday message). Google+ on the other hand does not allow me to do that. I could post a happy birthday to you on my circle and people in my circle will see it, but yours won't I believe.

[devilock76]

No, I've not seen anything like that so far. I always thought that was quite unnecessary on facebook.

It is nice, but it is not. First of all it is a pet peeve of mine and several friends that there are a couple of area promoters that like to hijack post on your wall. Where as they promote events by writing on your wall to spread it to your friends that aren't there friends. One of them actually has a team of people that does this and atleast have been kind enough to keep a list of people who don't appreciate it. It is that or making it so no one can post to your wall.

In general I don't necessary get the separation between status updates and wall posts. I mean I understand the differences but not the why's advantages. Especially with being able to tag people in status updates, notes, comments etc. If you want everyone to be able to see something but want a person to have special attention with it then you tag them. Tagging them effectively puts it on there wall in FB.

And here is the thing, tagging someone in G+ does the same. So it is a better analog for the wall. Tagging and wall posts are kind of redundant. G+ also allows you granular control of who can tag you and how (requires approval, and on what).

Ken

[muddyfunkstar]

I don't think you can see when they add other people to their circles. You know like FB's "person A is now friends with person B".

No, I've not seen anything like that so far. I always thought that was quite unnecessary on facebook.

[devilock76]

Right, doesn't actually show up in their stream. Still, it's a way to send to only a few people without sending email.

No it does show up in "their" stream, what it does not do is show up in their profile when other people look at it. Only items they shared and others shared with them that you are either in the same circle or part of extended circles. Which theoretically you would see on your stream. There isn't really a wall to write on like FB. The profile view merely is content sensitive, not even activity sensitive. I don't think you can see when they add other people to their circles. You know like FB's "person A is now friends with person B".

Ken

[CoderGuy]

Like I commented though, that solution is more akin to sending as personal message.

Ken

Right, doesn't actually show up in their stream. Still, it's a way to send to only a few people without sending email.

[devilock76]

Chad has posted something in his stream about how to do that. In the section where you can select circles to post to, you can add an individuals name, and it'll post to their stream only. Not tried it myself yet, but apparently that's how it can be done.

Like I commented though, that solution is more akin to sending as personal message.

Ken

[muddyfunkstar]

Chad has posted something in his stream about how to do that. In the section where you can select circles to post to, you can add an individuals name, and it'll post to their stream only. Not tried it myself yet, but apparently that's how it can be done.

[CoderGuy]

Ah saw you added me, cool. The one thing I cannot figure on Google+ is how to post directly to someone (like posting on a Facebook Wall). I can post to the circle they belong to, or send them an email but not post "on their wall".

[muddyfunkstar]

I've added a few of you guys who I recognise from this thread to a snuson circle.

I'm Andy Hewitt-Lock, in case you're wondering who the stranger is adding you!

[muddyfunkstar]

I caved in and joined up. I quite like it, so far. Not as user friendly as I hoped, but Google are pretty good at sorting these things out. The circles are definitely A Good Thing.

[sgreger1]

To be fair, they are still in limited field trials and already have 10 million+ users in only the first month. People will get on there once the doors open, it just isn't completely launched yet as they are rolling out slowly so it may seem kind of quiet right now.


Personally, I like the simplicity of it, which is the same reason why I use Google search. It's a clean interface and I don't have to do it all up like a myspace page. It allows me to filter who hears what I say and what I have to hear from other people. Pretty sure there will be others who like these qualities. I don't see it killing facebook, but definately going to be competition. Google has a big fanbase. Then again it isn't even launched with all of the features yet so we'll have to see what they make out of it.

I never thought facebook would kill myspace but look what happened, myspace is a failure and bankrupt and will be gone in a matter of months. It happens fast, I expect facebook will lose a lot of money because of G+.

[Frosted]

I think I understand you. A google search shouldn't be a problem if the site respects "circle" or privacy settings though. Ideally a google for Frosted would give generic information from the outside of your "circle". Stuff someone would find by searching the site itself. If it bores into your account and and reveals you like goat porn, that could be an issue :^D

lmao.