Originally posted by devilock76
better think twice about those torrents
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Originally posted by devilock76Touring is expensive, and up until the prices went through the roof for concert tickets was not a profitable venture. Major label acts had to do that though because of people downloading. Yeah most new stuff is garbage. Don't buy it or download it. But if you think something is really good you should support it, and in business, and music is a business, support means money. Some more established artists have given away newer albums. But they were in the fiscal position to do so and that business model has not been proven to lead to back catalog sales or more concert ticket sales, yet.
Independent bands, when they tour typically their biggest profit is the merch table unless they are a band that does a whole night of music mixing crowd pleasing covers with their originals. In those cases those bands tend to get paid better by the establishment they are playing at.
Ken
As far as I am concerned I am sharing music with friends. This could apply to movies, games, images etc...
If I have a collection of VHS movies and a friend asks to borrow one, do I reply you cannot watch it because it is illegal because you have not purchased the right to.
The whole argument is ridiculous in todays wired society.
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Originally posted by LincolnSnuff" C'mon, you are just trying to justify what you are doing because you know it's wrong.
I support many causes that don't have much to do with me. You might want to think twice about slinging accusations around ;^)
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Yeah, I download torrents, and yeah, it's stealing. I don't try to justify it, because you can't. I do it because it's easy and there is little chance of getting caught. To paraphrase the Best Buy argument, it's like if Best Buy had all their good shit set up outside the front door, with nobody and no cameras watching.
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Originally posted by AtreyuKunI fail to see how me downloading ancient episodes of You Can't Do That On Television hurts anyone. Think I would buy them on DVD if they were available? Damn sure would! But it isn't so download I go.
I support those people I believe in. My friend Alu in LA, buying her shit. Well, I'm buying her CD's actually, not her shit. The guys at Famicom Dojo, I bought their DVD. GN? I'm supporting him by not buying General.
90% of my favorite stuff are the things nobody has heard of or cares about. Those are the people who get my money.
I download shit I can't buy.....
I download shit to check it out BEFORE I BUY...
I have waaaaaaaay too many DVDs and Bluray. Lmao
My 2¢ is most of the shit people download illegally will be deleted, (although, music may be different) and although you can download HD movies the time and space doesn't make sence for a good portion of downloaders.
You can feel sorry for the industry all you want.... But the are laughing at you all the way to the bank.
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The big media execs robbed me for years. If piracy was hurting their bottom line so much then why have they not cut production a little? They say: "you wouldn't download a car?!" I say: "yes, yes I would". Maybe I'm just a shady bastard. Also anyone with half a brain can keep comcast or any other ISP from knowing if they are downloading copyrighted material.
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Originally posted by lxskllrBands have never made real money from recordings. Touring and merchandise has ALWAYS been where the money comes from. Bands aren't touring any more or less than they ever have. If they want to make money, they tour. Otherwise, they don't.
I actually took music business and law in college. I still have the outdated course book, but we had extensive discussions about this old model as it was just at the cusp of everything changing in light of the internet. mp3.com would go online the same year I finished that class.
Ken
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Originally posted by truthwolf1Hey, I have two full boxes CD's I purchased for no less then 10 a piece back in the day. I put them all on the computer as others and shared.
As far as I am concerned I am sharing music with friends. This could apply to movies, games, images etc...
If I have a collection of VHS movies and a friend asks to borrow one, do I reply you cannot watch it because it is illegal because you have not purchased the right to.
The whole argument is ridiculous in todays wired society.
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Originally posted by TheJanitorYeah, I download torrents, and yeah, it's stealing. I don't try to justify it, because you can't. I do it because it's easy and there is little chance of getting caught. To paraphrase the Best Buy argument, it's like if Best Buy had all their good shit set up outside the front door, with nobody and no cameras watching.
Ken
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Originally posted by AnselI've spent thousands on second-hand records - i'm guessing not a cent of this goes to the artist.
Ken
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Originally posted by devilock76That is wrong. Bands have made plenty in the past from selling records, hence why anyone ever cared about a platinum or gold record. Especially once they were superstars. Plus they get paid for airplay of it but that is another matter. Comercial usage, etc. For a successful song the publishing rights can be a huge deal. The original intent of touring was before there was machine wide mass media and networking like we have today was to boost album sales in the markets the band was touring in, that was it. Ticket prices were designed to try to make the expenses of touring net out to not be a loss that offset the sales profits from album sales.
I actually took music business and law in college. I still have the outdated course book, but we had extensive discussions about this old model as it was just at the cusp of everything changing in light of the internet. mp3.com would go online the same year I finished that class.
Ken
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Originally posted by lxskllrA band makes about $1 per album. Best case scenario is a power trio, where everyone makes 33¢ per album. Duke Ellington orchestra? Yea, right :^D
Ken
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