Astronomy and snus?

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Hm ... Hm.... Just little somthing out of this place ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgg2t...e_gdata_player

[AtreyuKun]

I can't believe this thread made it 3 pages.
Anyway, I had a really impressive post about the size of the universe and the quantum theory. About how twin particles can exist across the infinite span of the universe. Screw with one here on earth and one a million light years away reacts. That post I was going to make got lost somehow as I was typing which sucks because it was good I think.
Sometimes, I imagine the universe exists in a box on some divine shelf somewhere. Or that the universe is like a living organism and that every planet, star, or galaxy is like a cell in that organism.
I was going to bring up thought, energy, and matter as one in the same. One day, our decedent species will understand these concepts better than us, but I think some of our species are catching a glimpse of the next step in our evolution.
We'll get there one day....

[deadohsky]

...I had a really impressive post about the size of the universe and the quantum theory. About how twin particles can exist across the infinite span of the universe. Screw with one here on earth and one a million light years away reacts. That post I was going to make got lost somehow as I was typing which sucks because it was good I think...

That's too bad, by the sounds of it, it would have been a interesting read. As it turned out the post that got through was certainly very interesting.

Theoretical physics is fascinating to me. String Theory, a multiverse, 11 dimensions, etc. It's all very interesting to read the different theories on how scientists are trying to reconcile our picture/ understanding of the universe and create a theory of everything.

[sgreger1]

Even if we had the math in hand today it could be centuries before we could ever marshall the obscene power levels needed to do anything approaching the "warping" of space. Could be tomorrow too but it's a sucker bet for this century and likely for the next one as well. Antimatter, dark matter, dark energy, whatever, if ever, that does the trick will likely require stupendous energy levels merely to access let alone productively utilize. I'm thinking 23rd or 24th century at least, if even then of course.

Yah we would need to pretty much consume a jupiter sized planet's worth of energy in every system we visited just to get the thing up to speed. It would be too costly to ever do that way, imagine if you had to eat up a whole hawaii sized island to fuel your ship to sail to the next continent, we would only be able to visit everywhere once Plus, sapping that much energy from any given system would likely destabilize the whole orbital pattern of things and end up with bad consequences. Imagine if we just removed jupiter from our solar system, the whole thing would spin weird after that, and even if we just removed the energy it would have profound effects on the rest of the system as well. These are mechanical systems that have fallen into equilibrium over the course of millions/billions of years, making suden changes would probably lead to very bad things.





Check this out yall, now we know where all of the water has been coming from, and that water is likely more abundant in the universe than we first thought:







A "baby Sun" has been discovered with jets that blast epic quantities of water into interstellar space. Protostars are seeding the Universe with water.


The long and the short of it: When stars first form, they have disks of particles around them. The star eats up those particles and combines them, then it spits them out at incredible speeds out into the universe.

We've known that for a while.

What no one thought of though, was that what if the particles in that cloudy disk happen to be hydrogen and oxygen? Well, the star mashes them together to form unthinkable quantities of water (H20) of course, then shoots it out onto the surrounding planets. It appears that some young stars are spraying epic amounts of water out into the universe which explains why water appears to be more abundant than we thought.


The star mixes the particles together into a gas (very hot), then as the gas gets get shot out into space it leaves the stars warmth and hits the freezing temperatures of space, immediately converting the h20 gas into solid ice, where it travels until it gets pulled in by the gravity of a planet or other solar body.

So the rules have changed, water is likely abundant throughout the universe in immense quantities. Life is out there.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A5pOzv4v8Y&sns=em
Just thought it is quite close to what Sgreger1 was saing....

[sgreger1]

Russian scientists expect humanity to encounter alien civilisations within the next two decades, a top Russian astronomer said on Monday.

"The genesis of life is as inevitable as the formation of atoms ... Life exists on other planets and we will find it within 20 years," said Andrei Finkelstein, director of the Russian Academy of Sciences' Applied Astronomy Institute, according to the Interfax news agency.

Speaking at an international forum dedicated to the search for extraterrestrial life, Finkelstein said 10% of the known planets circling suns in the galaxy resemble Earth. If water can be found there, then so can life, he said, adding that aliens would most likely resemble humans with two arms, two legs and a head.

"They may have different colour skin, but even we have that," he said.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

I can't believe this thread made it 3 pages.
Anyway, I had a really impressive post about the size of the universe and the quantum theory. About how twin particles can exist across the infinite span of the universe. Screw with one here on earth and one a million light years away reacts. That post I was going to make got lost somehow as I was typing which sucks because it was good I think.
Sometimes, I imagine the universe exists in a box on some divine shelf somewhere. Or that the universe is like a living organism and that every planet, star, or galaxy is like a cell in that organism.
I was going to bring up thought, energy, and matter as one in the same. One day, our decedent species will understand these concepts better than us, but I think some of our species are catching a glimpse of the next step in our evolution.
We'll get there one day....

Very famous fisician Reserford as well thought that same thing as you Atry about "living organism - cell" you have same teory as he had and I also

[sgreger1]

It all depends on how you define life. If we are talking about a bunch of small systems making up one larger system that itself may be part of a larger system, than yes the universe may as well be a living thing, and the heavenly bodies are merely atoms that if you zoom out enough make a solid object somewhere else, who knows. I believe in the multiverse theory, and I think out whole universe may itself jsut be a pebble of sand on a much larger beach that we just cannot conceive. Just like we have atoms that, in aggrigate, make up our physical bodies, the universe itself may just be one smaller piece of a larger whole. We will never know I suppose, which is kind of depresing. But there is hope yet!

[Darwin]

There are a lot of issues in quantum physics that either indicate strongly or are made much easier by the existence of the "many worlds" theory but accessing any of those alternate universes is altogether another and perhaps ultimately insoluble problem. No sweat. This here universe has enough mystery all by itself to satisfy the curiosity of the next couple hundred thousand generations of earth based sapients.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

http://youtu.be/c8CgDGhYKe8
I love this

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

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