Police openly steeling money at random to fund their department

[lxskllr]

I'm not saying he is a liar. But every opinion any of us have is Bent to our way of thinking. That's a fact...... And defaulting to an 'it could be worse" defense is lame as well.......

Don't like Brussels sprouts? It could be a shit sandwich with pea gravel on top....

[sgreger1]

This is just like the military. You shouldn't assume someone is some great hero just because they signed up, honor and respect are earned not issued. Likewise, I will respect and honor those cops who are protectors of freedom and the citizens in their jurisdiction, but they seem to be so far and few between nowadays because most of them have bought into the idea that anyone who isn't a cop is a second class citizen and you can treat them however you want.

Police Brutality: Cop says "I don't need no warrant, mother****er" then proceeds to kill the dog then the unarmed man.

Police brutally tazer man lying on ground then pepper spray his mother who was just sitting in the car. 6 cops on one.

[sgreger1]

Blue, I really don't appreciate your choice of words with "bent". So you are saying that my son is lying when he says some scum bag wasn't driving drunk or was speeding or spit on him or threatened to kill him? Both of which has happened. Guess since some idiot in Tennessee is a bad cop that makes my son a corrupt cop too. Wow.

You're probably right. We need a law enforcement system like Mexico, any country from the Middle East, or if we were to be really blessed, China or Russia.

Hey man your a good friend to the forum and no one is trying to bad mouth your son, I would hate for my thread to be something that devolves into an argument over whether your son is a good person or not because I am positive that he is. We are just saying that just because there are good police doesn't mean that there are not bad police, and that as LEO's they need to be held to a higher standard. I am glad your son is one of the good ones, and I hope he can spread that to the other LEO's he comes into contact with.

Some of us have been wronged by the police many times, so while you see your sons side of the story (People always spitting on him and trying to kill him etc), you have to see that we are looking at it from the other side where the cops are here beating and threatening us, tazering our friends, stealing or breaking our property etc.

[sgreger1]

Deaf Woodcarver gets brutally murdered by police officer for having a pocket knife and whiddling some wood.

Cop sees him whiddling some wood with a pocketknife, yells at him to drop it (the guy is deaf and not facing the cop so can't hear), and cops unloads 4 rounds and kills him.

IN AMERICA YOU CAN GET SHOT FOR WHIDDLING WOOD IN PUBLIC.

[Premium Parrots]

Everyone....and I mean EVERYONE deserves a certain level of respect untill they prove to us they don't deserve it.

I will continue to thank every military person and every law enforcement officer knowing full well that some simply don't deserve it. The overwhelming majority of these people do deserve it.
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@ PMD, please convey our deepest appreciation and thanks to your son for the task that he upholds....from the members of snuson.

[TheJanitor]

Sounds to me like you're dealing with a bunch of crooked assholes, who just happen to be cops.

Just cause a black guy robs you it's no reason to join the klan.

[Bigblue1]

You know what else, if a cop is doing his job and dealing with the 10% worse people in society, it should be a given that they will be threatened and worse. But to say that we should not judge cops by the actions of some or the policies they blindly follow is BS, and that it is common for them to be treated like this by the other 90% is more wrong. They are professionals in a profession that is ripe for abuse. Therefore they should be held to a higher standard. There should be zero tolerance for corruption in the police force. But to say that they are always right when they are shaking down Law abiding citizens ie not criminals with ever more draconian laws is just shit. I will not bow down and lick there boots because of the profession they have chosen. Respect is earned!

[GoVegan]

Wow sgregor - that video you posted of the wood carver being shot is very sad. Something tell me that his family will sue for millions and we the taxpayers will need to foot the bill. I am sure that the cop will be placed on paid administrative leave while the incident is being investigated.

I was in the service for a while. I remember feeling very ill after I saw the pictures of Abu Ghraib. As a soldier I was taught to follow the Geneva Conventions and rules of war. The people who see crimes like this happening and do nothing are just as guilty as the perpetrators. I feel the same way about the police who follow the blue wall or code of silence. I can tell you that most cops are honest and do work hard to help the public. There have been several incidents in my neighborhood where deputies and judges have been arrested by the California Highway Patrol for drunk driving and other offenses even after the sheriff himself came to the scene and told the highway patrolman to go home because they will handle the situation. When I see reports like that , I do know that there are honest, decent cops out there who are doing their jobs even if it means going against the good old boy system.

Big Blue - thanks for the oath keepers link. Those people are the true heroes!

[lxskllr]

Sounds to me like you're dealing with a bunch of crooked assholes, who just happen to be cops.

Just cause a black guy robs you it's no reason to join the klan.

The problem is that something in the culture encourages the behavior. I'm running about 60:40 in the negative territory with cops. I haven't been shot yet, but I've dealt with rudeness, and lying that DIRECTLY affected my bottom line. Would you accept a 60% negative experience for any business you dealt with? Can you even think of an environment where fully 60% of the people are dickheads? If you were to see that anywhere, it would be in the construction industry. The worst company I worked with had a ~25% dickhead ratio, and I found it noteworthy, and wondered what part of the corporate culture made them dickheads, when other companies had good people working for them :^/

[GoVegan]

The problem is that something in the culture encourages the behavior. I'm running about 60:40 in the negative territory with cops. I haven't been shot yet, but I've dealt with rudeness, and lying that DIRECTLY affected my bottom line. Would you accept a 60% negative experience for any business you dealt with? Can you even think of an environment where fully 60% of the people are dickheads? If you were to see that anywhere, it would be in the construction industry. The worst company I worked with had a ~25% dickhead ratio, and I found it noteworthy, and wondered what part of the corporate culture made them dickheads, when other companies had good people working for them :^/

Ever try to buy a car at the dealer before?

[Premium Parrots]

somehow, someway in most of the posts here are accurate......it all depends upon the climate of crime in the area you are referring to. Triplethreat is in Eau Clair wisconsin, a realitively crime free area in the out-back of Wisconsin. He normally doesn't have to deal with crack-heads and such. Whats the murder rate up there...1 person a year....and about 20k of deer a year?

The officers in LA have to deal with a completely different kind of citizen with a totally different mind-set. Many of the people in LA and surrounding areas are ruthless thugs and drug addicts. I'm not saying all people in the large cities are bad, just some. And the police have to be aware of who they are dealing with and act accordingly. Sure some of the police in these areas get "conditioned" to think that everyone is the bad guy. Its those few police officers that this thread is referring to. I believe that 90% of police officers are good honest hard working people. Of course that could be because I live in a realively crime-free area and the police here don't normally have to deal with the worst people in the world ALL the time.

My opinion may be jaded by the fact that I have always been respected by the officers I have ever been in contact with. However, that may be because the area I live in is a tad upscale and we see no real crime here except the occasional burgerly or the occasional dead body thats been dumped here in the sticks by the gangs in chicago.

[lxskllr]

Wow sgregor - that video you posted of the wood carver being shot is very sad. Something tell me that his family will sue for millions and we the taxpayers will need to foot the bill. I am sure that the cop will be placed on paid administrative leave while the incident is being investigated.

In the interest of full disclosure, I followed that case fairly closely on another forum. The guy that got shot was well acquainted with the police for numerous non-violent nuisance issues. He was a drunk, and had some mental problems. That's still no excuse for shooting him in the back. The cop? He resigned, and no one felt any need to press charges. Guilty, or not, it should have at least gone to court to let a jury decide.

What do you suppose would happen to you if you shot a guy holding a shitty folding knife ~25' away in the back? :^S

[Bigblue1]

Ever try to buy a car at the dealer before?

See now is where if I were taking this personal, I would begin to whine about how I don't like posting here anymore, because you just made a comment on my profession. The difference being is a car salesman has no power over you. If you "overpay" it is due to your lack of research and due diligence, and possibly because you were so happy at the time that it led to you not doing so. To my Knowledge nobody has ever been tazed or worse by a car salesman.

[GoVegan]

See now is where if I were taking this personal, I would begin to whine about how I don't like posting here anymore, because you just made a comment on my profession. The difference being is a car salesman has no power over you. If you "overpay" it is due to your lack of research and due diligence, and possibly because you were so happy at the time that it led to you not doing so. To my Knowledge nobody has ever been tazed or worse by a car salesman.

OK I apologize. It's just that trying to pay off my leased car so far has ended up taking 3 trips to the dealer, 1 of those trips being nothing more than a sales pitch to get another car, The other was for some paperwork he forgot to have me sign. I wrote the dealer a check on 3/8/2011 which included DMV fees and I am still driving a car with no tags on it. They expired in April and I am just hoping I don't get pulled over by a cop that enjoys shooting people.

[Bigblue1]

Don't apologize, It is a perfect example, How we can make lawyer jokes, bitch about car salesman, and make fun of plumbers' crack but start critiquing the police and your a dirtbag. Well played my friend.......