Man killed wife and daughters because of Champix anti smoking tablets.

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  • Frosted
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    Man killed wife and daughters because of Champix anti smoking tablets.

    6 April 2011 Last updated at 12:36 Share this page
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    Fordingbridge family death father 'on medication'

    Mrs Case was stabbed and her two daughters probably smothered, the inquest heard
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    A man suspected of killing his wife and two daughters may have been taking anti-smoking medication with possible anger side effects, an inquest heard.
    Andrew Case, 33, was found dead along with wife Vicki, 31, and their two girls Nereya, one, and Phoebe, two, at their home in Fordingbridge, Hampshire.
    The inquest heard Mr Case had been prescribed 28 anti-smoking Champix tablets before the deaths last year.
    It was told they could have possible depression and anger side effects.
    Mr Case was dispensed a further 56 tablets by a chemist on 23 July last year, the day the family had returned from a week-long holiday to Weymouth, Dorset.
    The inquest heard the original prescription packet was found empty in the house and only 28 of the extra tablets were found.
    'Babies are dead' Three days after the family returned from the holiday, Mrs Case was found lying on her back on the living room floor with the two girls on either side of her.
    She appeared to be embracing the two girls, who have been described by family members as "little angels", the Southampton inquest heard.
    A blanket had been placed over them.
    Mrs Case had died of "catastrophic" bleeding caused by two large knife wounds to her neck and chest and the two girls had probably been smothered, the inquest heard.
    Mr Case was found hanging on the staircase of the semi-detached house, which was neat with no signs of disturbance.
    Their bodies were found by Mrs Case's mother Linda Haskell, 57, who went around to the house when she had not been able to contact the family since the Saturday.
    Mrs Haskell ran from the scene shouting "They're all dead - my babies are dead", alerting neighbours who contacted police.
    The inquest continues.

    WTF - AND THEY'RE BANNING SNUS!!!!???
  • truthwolf1
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    • Oct 2008
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    #2
    Have there not been multiple suicides with something similar (chantix or something) they created a few years ago?

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    • CreteCoater
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      • Feb 2011
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      #3
      Originally posted by Frosted View Post

      WTF - AND THEY'RE BANNING SNUS!!!!???
      +1...

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      • Rattlesnake
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        chantix made my brother go unstable. So I never bothered to try it. Same bloodline and all that rubbish. I'm nutty enough.

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        • Frosted
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          #5
          Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
          Have there not been multiple suicides with something similar (chantix or something) they created a few years ago?
          Same things - different brand names I think.

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          • Frosted
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            • Mar 2010
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            Originally posted by Rattlesnake View Post
            chantix made my brother go unstable. So I never bothered to try it. Same bloodline and all that rubbish. I'm nutty enough.
            lmao!

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            • precious007
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              • Sep 2010
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              #7
              there's coicaine down the road where I live

              Frosted, snus is more dangerous than heroine

              lmao

              chantix made my brother go unstable
              Hey Snake, what do you mean made your brother unstable?

              PS will share this in a quit smoking forum, probably they understand what I mean by champix can induce suicide and homicide it's no joke lol.

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              • muddyfunkstar
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                • Aug 2010
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                #8
                My boss had some very bad moods when he was using champix. Everyone in the office gave him a wide berth, and people would ask around to find out what sort of mood he was in before going to talk to him. He's back to normal now, and still off the smokes.

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                • Rattlesnake
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  can induce suicide and homicide it's no joke lol. That is what I meant.
                  He has always been the most stable minded person I know of, other than my father. My brother is the CEO of a Alcohol and other distributorship of consumer products.
                  He had a heart attack, was prescribed Chantix and went nutty. After about 4 days of having his system flushed of this drug he has never had these thoughts again. But trust me he would have been hell on wheels had he not gotten off that stuff.

                  Doctor has admitted sometimes after MI body chemistry and Chantix don't mix.

                  Some people have had Heart attacks and are not aware of it until something else goes wrong and they then find the damage done.

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                  • precious007
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                    Originally posted by Rattlesnake View Post
                    can induce suicide and homicide it's no joke lol. That is what I meant.
                    He has always been the most stable minded person I know of, other than my father. My brother is the CEO of a Alcohol and other distributorship of consumer products.
                    He had a heart attack, was prescribed Chantix and went nutty. After about 4 days of having his system flushed of this drug he has never had these thoughts again. But trust me he would have been hell on wheels had he not gotten off that stuff.

                    Doctor has admitted sometimes after MI body chemistry and Chantix don't mix.

                    Some people have had Heart attacks and are not aware of it until something else goes wrong and they then find the damage done.
                    can you tell me what type of thoughts, did he actually get a diagnose?

                    Varenicline (trade name Chantix in the USA and Champix in Canada, Europe and other countries, marketed by Pfizer, usually in the form of varenicline tartrate) is a prescription medication used to treat smoking addiction. Varenicline is a nicotinic receptor partial agonist. In this respect, it is similar to cytisine and different from the nicotinic antagonist, bupropion, and nicotine replacement therapies (NRTs) like nicotine patches (commonly, "the patch") and nicotine gum. As a partial agonist, it both reduces cravings for and decreases the pleasurable effects of cigarettes and other tobacco products, and through these mechanisms it can assist some patients to quit smoking.
                    Varenicline is also strongly suspected of causing severe psychological side effects. The US Food and Drug Administration requires varenicline and Zyban (bupropion) to carry a black box warning, the agency's strongest safety warning, due to side effects including depression, suicidal thoughts, and suicidal actions
                    they don't mention anything about homicide but suicide is most likely.

                    I've been on several meds Snakes, but never Chantix (SSRI's, benzos and all the like) but luckily none of them made me do anything stupid, however they have had some psychological effects...

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                    • EricHill78
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                      • Jun 2010
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                      #11
                      What a sad story.. i feel bad for the family..

                      Id rather smoke than have those side effects that's horrible.. it seems a lot of these medications the side effects are worse than the actual problem the medication is supposed to address.

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                      • sgreger1
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                        • Mar 2009
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                        #12
                        I don't buy it, this is like people who go get drunk and then claim the alcohol made them beat up their wife. It's a fake excuse, sure the pills make you a little more angry and on edge, but the leap from being agitated to "tripple homicide" is a pretty big leap that requires a lot more than some anti-smoking medication.

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                        • EricHill78
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                          • Jun 2010
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                          #13
                          I agree somewhat in this exact case. He was probably messed up to begin with. Some medications are crazy though remember in the news I think it was Ambien or whatever you call it. People were driving in their sleep that's some scary sh@t right there.

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                          • Frosted
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                            • Mar 2010
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                            One of the lads from our Regiment left and started up his own security business - a couple of years later he shot his wife kids and then himself. I fully understand that people in the army or ex army are unhinged in one way or another but this is off the scale.

                            Why do people do that?

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                            • precious007
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                              • Sep 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Frosted View Post
                              One of the lads from our Regiment left and started up his own security business - a couple of years later he shot his wife kids and then himself. I fully understand that people in the army or ex army are unhinged in one way or another but this is off the scale.

                              Why do people do that?
                              some are psychopats some might be hearing some kind of voice from Champix that is telling them to kill their family

                              you can never know the exact effects of a pill on a certain individual (like sgregrer said it's more than just the pill) some people are psychopats and never seek help and just live free until they kill their family.

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