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  • jagmanss
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    Originally posted by Faylool
    http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...er-in-WTAs-too

    In the end it seems true there is probably a relationship between the nic strength and WTAs and the stuff added to snus to make it more absorbable also makes the WTAs more absorbable and that Rustica is one tobacco known to have both higher WTAs and nicotine. That was enough info for me. The ground on my property is growing Rustica soon. Ill be making snus though. Flavors is probably the most challenging area in the vaping scene! Sometimes i dont like one and then I revisit it later and i like it! Also, there is what is called "vapers tounge" even though its your nose, you cant taste flavor well or it gets altered to bluck. Those days i suck a hard candy....not good for teeth but....it happens. I recommend snusing while vaping WTA to get more of the goods and only buy low nicotine. 12 mg. Too much nicotine can counteract the relaxing part or what i call the not getting wired part.

    I think this is key and maybe it's what I have been doing which is why I keep feeling wired, tired,lazy and not being able to think straight... I think I'm counteracting the relaxing part of snus with too much high nic snus, Although I do mix it up during the day with lower nic snus..... I dunno, I'm confused

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  • jagmanss
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    Originally posted by Faylool
    http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...er-in-WTAs-too

    In the end it seems true there is probably a relationship between the nic strength and WTAs and the stuff added to snus to make it more absorbable also makes the WTAs more absorbable and that Rustica is one tobacco known to have both higher WTAs and nicotine. That was enough info for me. The ground on my property is growing Rustica soon. Ill be making snus though. Flavors is probably the most challenging area in the vaping scene! Sometimes i dont like one and then I revisit it later and i like it! Also, there is what is called "vapers tounge" even though its your nose, you cant taste flavor well or it gets altered to bluck. Those days i suck a hard candy....not good for teeth but....it happens. I recommend snusing while vaping WTA to get more of the goods and only buy low nicotine. 12 mg. Too much nicotine can counteract the relaxing part or what i call the not getting wired part.
    Holy Crap! Hahaaa That was on here.... Damn I thought I saw something like that on the e-cigarette-forum..... Thanks Fay and Oh! That was exactly the info I was looking for, I wasn't sure about what strength of WTA ejuice to vape since i do alot of strong snus.... Although even on just snus I get that wired feeling, Could be i'm using to many strong snus through the day.... Hell man! I got all wired out on the e-cigarette-forum and got lost for about 2 hrs....

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  • Faylool
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    http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...er-in-WTAs-too

    In the end it seems true there is probably a relationship between the nic strength and WTAs and the stuff added to snus to make it more absorbable also makes the WTAs more absorbable and that Rustica is one tobacco known to have both higher WTAs and nicotine. That was enough info for me. The ground on my property is growing Rustica soon. Ill be making snus though. Flavors is probably the most challenging area in the vaping scene! Sometimes i dont like one and then I revisit it later and i like it! Also, there is what is called "vapers tounge" even though its your nose, you cant taste flavor well or it gets altered to bluck. Those days i suck a hard candy....not good for teeth but....it happens. I recommend snusing while vaping WTA to get more of the goods and only buy low nicotine. 12 mg. Too much nicotine can counteract the relaxing part or what i call the not getting wired part.

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  • jagmanss
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    Originally posted by Faylool
    I have the definition of WTA in my thread ( something about "does high nic mean high WTA?") Ignore the first half of the thread please. Finally somewhere down a ways is the truest definition of WTA and the minor alkaloids in it. The relationship of these minor alkaloids to nic is 95% nic to 5% WTAs this means those minor alkaloids pack a punch to calm the stimulating effects of nic solo. But they come with nic....in otherwords no nic, no minor alkaloids. Some of the things listed in that definition are found in other plants as well, same as nic. In the end the relationship is synergistic and i find nicotine alone to be a below average replacement for tobacco. No wonder you werent successful. I was. I chewed nicorette for 10 years. I chewed it day and in the middle of the night. The more i chewed the more i wanted more! Everyone calls it that " not satisfied" effect. Yeah so. Now you can spend too much money on vaping devices! Ha ha. Ill tell you a secret. Cheap. Its second best to rebuildable attomizer vaping for " getting the goods" i use a $15 non battery manual passthrough with a 2 amp charger plugged into the wall and 2.7- 3.00 ohm attomizer for dripping and drip the WTA e juice from Aroma Juice and it delivers more
    . You get more for your money (. : A lot of "goods" get wasted with vape because of the low absorption of vape in the mouth and nose. Not much gets absorped in the lungs at all. So you could puff it like a cigar and do great. If your wealthy i ve got other ideas for all that but youre fine and good. Me, if i had to choose just one way to get my tobacco experience it would have to be SNUFF...still. My poor nose! So im really doing great with snus, snuff and vape. I always have somw WTA but i cant afford to vape exclusively. Its Top Shelf
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    the low nic WTA is the way to go because both strengths choices have the same level of WTA. This means that yes, they add nic to the extraction. Thy dilute the extraction too. If you have high nic with the WTA juice it will negate the relaxation benefits of the minor alkaloinds. So i stick with 18 or 12 mg choices. Too much information? My daughter is always accusing me of that.
    Oh! Man! I have been looking for that thread over at the e-cigarette-forum because I wanted to read it and now can't find it.... I know I saw it.... Fay can you put me in the right direction? Thanks

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  • jagmanss
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    Originally posted by BadAxe
    While i can not tell you about the percentages. The Red Tail Vapor line is VG based, while the Aroma line is PG based.
    Originally posted by Faylool
    You can email with that question to be sure. Aroma is generally more PG than VG and Red Tail is supposed to be higher in VG. That could have changed! Oops. Post best me to it....again
    Originally posted by StuKlu
    The Aroma Line is 70/30 PG/VG and the RedTail Line is 70/30 VG/PG
    Thanks for all the info... Now I just need to make a decision on what flavors, strengths and mix I would want... Hmmm! Decisions Decisions!

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  • StuKlu
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    Originally posted by jagmanss
    I have a question...

    When you are ordering the WTA from aromaejuice how do tou know if it's PG or VG ? or what the ratio of both is? It doesn't tell you in the description...
    The Aroma Line is 70/30 PG/VG and the RedTail Line is 70/30 VG/PG

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  • Faylool
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    You can email with that question to be sure. Aroma is generally more PG than VG and Red Tail is supposed to be higher in VG. That could have changed! Oops. Post best me to it....again

    Originally posted by jagmanss
    I have a question...

    When you are ordering the WTA from aromaejuice how do tou know if it's PG or VG ? or what the ratio of both is? It doesn't tell you in the description...

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  • BadAxe
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    Originally posted by jagmanss
    I have a question...

    When you are ordering the WTA from aromaejuice how do tou know if it's PG or VG ? or what the ratio of both is? It doesn't tell you in the description...
    While i can not tell you about the percentages. The Red Tail Vapor line is VG based, while the Aroma line is PG based.

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  • BadAxe
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    I gave my review of the the WTA juice I received on Friday in the Aroma Aloha review thread, but I will put a summary of my thoughts here after a weekend with Aroma P-38 and Beatle Juice, with my new eCAB e-cig.

    Definitely more like a real cigarette experience, from inhale to exhale, from taste to sensation. Very close to the analog expeieince. Not getting quite the "satisfaction" I expected, but still much more satisfying than regular e-juice. In the end, I crave snus more then the e-cig, although I think to give my gums a break, I will be using the e-cig + WTA after eating, and after vaping weed. I have found I like the e-cig during those times, as those were some of my favorite cigarette times. So if I could only pick one, it would still be snus. But, I like that I like it enough to now put the snus down for a bit at times during the day, and I will enjoy the e-cig, but only with WTA juice. I am heading over to aroma now to try a couple of the flavors. Gonna try Grandma's Apple Pie, Peechy Keen, Mint Mango Berry, and Vanilla Splash.

    I like the P-38, as i was a menthol smoker. The Beatle Juice did taste just like a non menthol cigarette, but I was a menthol smoker, so its not for me. Got it in case my wife wants to try, She smoked Marlboro Lights.

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  • jagmanss
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    I have a question...

    When you are ordering the WTA from aromaejuice how do tou know if it's PG or VG ? or what the ratio of both is? It doesn't tell you in the description...

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  • wa3zrm
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    Originally posted by Faylool
    The unflavored DIY vapes well. Its high in VG which tends to sweeten it. I like it a lot even thogh i like thinner high PG juice there is stlll throat hit. You can thin it with distilled water. A little water thins it up a lot. Tends to be a little stronger BTW in the relaxing departement but nothing overwhelming still. I dont knw hiw people vape 100% VG! Everybody is soooo different. I add VG because it increases vaper. One of the flavors, WTA cinnamon roll makes great vaper but with flavor i ould NOT get throat hit no matter how i used it with what delivery device. I cant handle that I get irritable without my throat hit! Big baby!
    To tell you the truth, I've never experienced a e-cig throat hit until I tried the P38! I just placed another order tonight. I'm getting the cinnamon roll,
    Creme Brulee, Snickerdoodle as well as four bottles of the P38. The reason I like 100% VG is because I've had some bad reactions with PG juices. As far as carts go, my favorite is the Bud Sapphire from gotvapes. They work well with 100% VG. As far as mods go, I have a background in electronics and use a 12 volt regulated variable power supply to achieve different temps. If I wanted to, I could crank the thing up and make the juice boil . I don't see vaping in public... I never have since I stopped the analogs several years ago. Snus is another story, it's excellent for outside the home use. I use 2 or 3 strong portions and 4 or 5 regular portions per day although I've cut back since I've started the WTA. I asked Jerry if he could send me a sample of the unflavored because I'd like to make some atomic fireballs with the stuff. I can only imagine what it would be like with WTA.

    As far as the power supply goes, follow this link to see what I'm talking about:
    http://www.thebackshed.com/windmill/...owerSupply.asp

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  • Faylool
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    The unflavored DIY vapes well. Its high in VG which tends to sweeten it. I like it a lot even thogh i like thinner high PG juice there is stlll throat hit. You can thin it with distilled water. A little water thins it up a lot. Tends to be a little stronger BTW in the relaxing departement but nothing overwhelming still. I dont knw hiw people vape 100% VG! Everybody is soooo different. I add VG because it increases vaper. One of the flavors, WTA cinnamon roll makes great vaper but with flavor i ould NOT get throat hit no matter how i used it with what delivery device. I cant handle that I get irritable without my throat hit! Big baby!

    Originally posted by wa3zrm
    Real deal hell... I've become addicted to the damn stuff!!! I can't imagine the FDA leaving something this good around for very long. I've only been doing it 2 or 3 times a day after eating... it's just like having a cigarette! I don't know which one is better... the first one in the morning or the one after dinner. It's been less than a week, I hope my body does not adapt to it. One thing for sure, it's not a placebo effect. I wonder what the stuff would taste like without any flavor added?

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  • wa3zrm
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    It's like we have three choices now... nasal snuff... snus... and now this WTA eJuice... between the three, I'm a happy man! It only took me two days to get use to strong portions before the "buzz" vanished... this WTA eJuice has a calming effect... almost like Xanax! And it's not does not stop... especially at night... a few hits off the P38 I'm using at bedtime calms me down and makes it easy to sleep. Damn...

    You guys may also want to check out:
    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...e-oil-not.html

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  • StuKlu
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    I haven't had a snus all day. This would have been unheard of prior to getting the WTA juice. Suddenly being down to only 10 cans of snus, as I am now, is of no concern to me. I wasn't trying to quit snus, but the e-cig is now so much better.

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  • TommyGunBC
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    ok than I'll bite and order up some , give my opinion when I get it in the mail

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