A new way to flavour snus without essential oils

[tommybegley]

yeah I have only ever really used snuff for the nose

[Snusdog]

Yes when dipping snuff it is common to spit

That said......my interest in snuff is its nasal use

[tommybegley]

that sounds interesting, wouldn't it get all over your mouth? do people have to spit whenn doing that? I'll have a look into them

[Snusdog]

Mr. Snuff has a good selection of American snuff

It comes in Sweet and Plain. In most cases the plain is very smokey. The Sweet is probably where you would want to start.

Also remember that snuff is very dry.......the way it has been traditionally used orally is to wet a stick (think Popsicle stick....or stick with the bark whittled off) and dip it into the snuff then suck on the stick

[tommybegley]

Yeah that makes sense, cool yeah I'll have a looksee

[squeezyjohn]

I think the blend of tobaccos used in commercial snus is one of their closely guarded secrets. Modern snus is nearly all made from air-cured or sun-cured leaves - but any variety can be used - and the type used can radically change the taste of the final product. I've posted numerous recipes here if you care to dip in to the archives of the Grow and make your own section.

[tommybegley]

Thanks, I'll have a look for some leaf on the net, what sort of tobacco do they generally use (by they I mean snus companies)? It never really says like it does on smoking tobacco. Where can you get American (non dip) snuffs? I have looked around and no sight seems to ship them to the uk but I guess someone must?

[Snusdog]

Oh so its not the cheapest option, but I would say its easier to get hold of than whole leaf tobacco, unless tobacconists sell them? But I cant see them doing that.

There are sites that sell whole leaf........and catalogs from which you can order it (I think Stokers Tobacco sells whole leaf.....but I may be wrong there).......Regardless it should be pretty easy to come by

One point....... even though snus was originally derived from snuff.......not all current market snuff can be used orally........Most British snuffs (Toque, Wilsons, etc.....) are meant for nose only and so are not very taste conducive.........on the other hand most traditional American nasal snuffs (Honey Bee, Navy, etc) are made for dual use (nose and to dip)......

the point is....... make sure any bulk product you buy is not prepared in a snuff only manner if you intend to use it as snus.........Its been a while since I've been to the Toque site (get most of my snuff from Mr Snuff) so I am not sure if this applies to what Roderick is selling there

[tommybegley]

Oh so its not the cheapest option, but I would say its easier to get hold of than whole leaf tobacco, unless tobacconists sell them? But I cant see them doing that.

[squeezyjohn]

And sorry ... they don't sell snus! That was a typo - i meant snuff

[squeezyjohn]

I haven't made snus from snuff, no. The Toque economy bags come in at £34 for 400g (16 cans worth!) which is about twice as much as you'd pay for whole leaf unprocessed tobacco.

[tommybegley]

I had no idea they sold bulk bags, nor snus! Yeah that's what I thought, because by time you have blended up a bag of tobacco I feel like I have just payed £15 for a can of snuff which is bloody ridiculous!

Have you ever done it personally?

[squeezyjohn]

Short answer is yes. Snus is simply snuff that has gone through further sweating and has had an alkali added.

However - a lot of nasal snuffs are fermented tobacco so it's important to find one with a suitable tobacco content for snus.

Toque sell bulk bags of their snus and snuff is tax free in the UK so one of the cheapest ways to get tobacco here. Roderick from Toque used to frequent here often but I've not seen him on SnusOn for ages!

[tommybegley]

Sorry to drag this somewhat away from monkeys and all their cuteness, but has anyone tyres to make snus with some plane snuff? As isn't that where snus came from in the farmer days?

[whalen]

Trust me! Any monkey can do it! I watched them!