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  • Havana Joe
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 22

    #1

    Have I overlooked this?

    Granted, I'm a new addition to this community, I have been a long time member of some other Cigar communities, so I'm familiar with how to search for threads, etc, etc...I did a search and no luck, so my apologies if this has been bought up before.

    Where does the name Snus originate from? I've heard many people mis-pronounce it, which will only get worse as more people discover it. Also everytime I mention it, people look cross-eyed at me "Like Snuff?" No Snus!

    I'm just curious and trying to expand my knowledge of my new found hobby--Snus :lol:
  • lxskllr
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 13435

    #2
    Snus=snuff. It's the same thing, different language. In recent years it's come to differentiate the Swedish make from other styles, but in the end it's just snuff.

    Edit:
    BTW, welcome to Snuson :^)

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    • sagedil
      Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 7077

      #3
      History of snuff

      1400-1500 – The early history of snuff

      It is not known how long people have used tobacco. Europeans first came in contact with tobacco when they reached the West Indies on the island Haiti. In October 1492 came Christopher Columbus and his men ashore on this island and were greeted by indigenous people that gave them gifts. The natives gave them among other things some dried tobacco leaves that they believed were enormously precious.

      The monk Ramon Pane joined Columbus on his second journey to America 1497 and came at that time in contact with the precursor of the snuff. Here he saw Indian priests inhale a powder through the nose by a tube. According to scientist did this powder not entirely consist of tobacco but the snuffing itself influenced the tobacco usage when it was introduced in Europe.

      The tobacco plant was brought to Europe through Spanish and Portuguese sailors. In Lisbon in the middle of the 16th century was the plant used in medical purpose by doctors and they believed that the herb could cure both syphilis and cancer. They grew the tobacco in their own gardens.
      Jean Nicot
      Jean Nicot, a French ambassador in Lisbon had a great importance for the development of the snuff usage. Carl von Linné used Nicot’s name to give the tobacco plant the Latin name, Nicotiana tabacum.

      In the 1560s came Nicot in contact with the tobacco plant that at this time was grown in the gardens of Lisbon. He became so enchanted with the tobacco plants that he brought some with him to Paris. According to hearsay it is said that Nicot helped the French Queen Catherine de Medici’s to get rid of her headache. When he received information about that the queen suffered from chronic headache he advised her to crumble tobacco leaves and inhale the powder through the nose. The queen’s headache diapered when she followed his advice and after that become the snuff in demand in French court circles.

      1600s-1700s – The snuff reaches Sweden
      Paris served as a model for all the European courts and it was not long until the snuff had spread to the remaining Europe. The first time snuff was mention in Sweden was 1637 where you in a custom document could reed that snuff been brought to Sweden from Borgå in Finland (known in Sweden as snus).

      In 18th century became the usage of snus a must among the ladies and men in the upper classes. To a fine 18th century outfit for a man belonged a snuff-box. The can should be valuable and handle with regulated elegance. The cans fast became one of the most popular gifts and were masterpieces consisting of gold, silver and other precious materials.

      The breakthrough for the Swedish tobacco industry came in the 1700s and tobacco was grown in Skåne (Scania), Gränna and Alingsås where the father of potatoes Jonas Alströmer started a tobacco plantation in a considerable size. In the end of 1700s tobacco was grown in as many as seventy Swedish towns.
      The decrease of the snuff
      The French revolution led to the end for the upper classes that had taken the traditional snuff. Under Napoleon, who was a heavy snuffer, the snuff temporary increased but after his downfall it becomes unfashionable and possible political risky to continue using snuff. To take snuff become old-fashioned and the burghers that now took the power started to smoke cigars.

      1800s – The snuff usages change
      The political development in Sweden coincides with the change of the snuff usages itself. Swedish consumers started in the beginning of 19th century, alternative slightly early to put a pinch of snuff beneath the upper lip. The majority of the farmers with an own plantation of tobacco also did their own snuff that they grind in their coffee-grinder or a homemade snuff-grinder.

      1800s-1900s – Snuff manufacturers
      Under 19th century producers began to manufacture local brands of the moist snuff. WM Hellgren with Generalsnus and Petter Swarz with Röda Lacket were some famous manufacturers but the biggest brand however was Ettan (Number One), Ljunglöfs Ettan. Jacob Fredrik Ljunglöfs snuff factory on the street of Badstugatan, today Sveavägen in Stockholm, has its roots in a tobacco company that were found 1695. Jacob Fredrik Ljunglöf started manufacturing snus 1822 and made it one of Europe’s leading snuff factories.

      More or less all the manufacturer in the 19th century had their own selection of a snuff No: 1, No: 2 and No: 3 which represented different qualities. Ljunglöf launched his trademark No: 1 as a nation-wide quality product and succeeded with that and it became known as Ettan (Number One). Even today is it one of Sweden’s biggest brands and stands for a fifth of the snuff sales in Sweden.
      America
      When slightly one million Swedes emigrated over the Atlantic between the years 1846 and 1930 they brought the Swedish traditions with them, among them the usage of snuff. In the Swedish-American district was it so common to take snuff that the main street got the name snuff boulevard by the Americans. The snuff becomes one of the Swedish people’s characteristics.
      The establishment of a monopoly
      In the beginning of 20th century was the Swedish state in need of money to the national defence and to the first pension reform. The money intended to come from the tobacco. A new establishment of a tobacco monopoly was introduced 1915 after a break in 250 years, and this was run by the stock company Ltd Swedish Tobacco monopoly.

      The consumption of snuff increased rapidly and 1919 it reached a record level when 7.000 ton of snuff was sold. Sweden’s population this year was 6 million people, a consumption of 1,2 kilo per person.

      The following years the snuff decreased when other tobacco products began to be used more frequently like the more popular cigarettes. After the Second World War became the cigarettes a part of the American trend.

      1970s until to today - a success story
      In the end of 1960s the snuff become increasingly popular again when the health risk in relation to cigarette smoking was revealed in a number of reports.

      The first portion-packed snus was launched under 1970s and it was an important step for the snuff to reach a wider clientele.

      Since then has the sale increased and during year 2003 were 193 million cans sold or 6.761 ton of snuff to approximately one million snuff users in Sweden. Never once has such great amount of Swedish people in all social classes used snuff. The usage of snuff has also taken a step over the customary gender barriers and women now accounts for slightly a fifth of the "snus" consumers.

      Additionally, snuff has strong traditions in Northern Europe, North America, Africa and some countries in Asia.

      http://www.snus.cc/snus-history.aspx

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        That site is interesting to see all the snus that's not around anymore, when you click "brands". I read that Rocker was in a foil and did not require referation for unopened storage. I was trying to get General to do this so their snus could be on the shelf at grocery stores and not limited to the specialty shops.

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        • Badfish74
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 1035

          #5
          Dang Sage! That was awesome! I saw how long it was and thought, borefest! But i started reading it anyway! man when i got the end, I was pissed off that it was over! Really cool post! 8)

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          • sagedil
            Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 7077

            #6
            I was just searching around a bit looking for the snus name answer and found that, realized t was more info than had ever read before. and i Really searched everything snus when I first started (Long pre my snuson stage)


            Why I posted it . :wink:

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            • chainsnuser
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 1389

              #7
              According to an old version of the Swedish Wikipedia-article, it was derived from the German word "Schnauze" (at least nowadays a pretty derogative word for "mouth", more often used for animals than for human beings, "Mund" would be the right German word now).

              http://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...&oldid=5896275

              Since parts of Northern Germany were under Swedish government in the 19th century and all the European monarchs anyway were/are all part of the same big royal "incest-cretin-family", with German being the language of choice in Northern Europe, certainly also used by some bigger industrials, like Fredrik Ljunglöf, it somehow makes sense.

              Since it's no longer stated in the recent Swedish Wikipedia snus-article, it could also be total nonsense. BUT, the person who changed the Swedish Wikipedia article stated that the German origin isn't stated in the English Wikipedia entry (as if an English speaking Wikipedia-author could know any more about snus than a Swedish one :roll:.!).

              "Snus" = "Schnauze" (a word for "mouth"), as a distinction from "Snuff" = "Sniff" = "Schniefen" (words connected to the nose) makes sense at least for me, from the sound of the words, till someone tells us that there (maybe) is another Swedish word that sounds just like "snus".

              Cheers!

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              • Havana Joe
                Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 22

                #8
                Wow, great breakdown of the history! Thanks!

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                • sgreger1
                  Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 9451

                  #9
                  All of you are wrong...

                  Everyone knows that snus was made by the jews as part of a mass zionist conspiracy to take over the tobacco industry, who would in turn donate it to the republican party who would elect george bush who would single handedly plan the most flawless terrorist attack ever perpetraded on the America's, then snus would have a big comeback in 2009 when newly elected president B Obama starts imposing higher taxes on cigarettes, leading more people to snus and increaseing revenue for snuse companies (the jews) worldwide, thus allowing them to fund the many stimulis programs to nationalize the US and allow the New World Order to take over.

                  Did I miss anything? Oh, there were other characters in this story including but not limited to: Sasquatch, chemtrails, black helicopters, the loch ness monster, Nancy Pelosi (oh sorry, I already mentioned sasquatch at the begining huh?), crop circles and Al Gore's global warming.

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                  • Snusdog
                    Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6752

                    #10
                    I nominate:

                    -chainsuser as snuson’s official etymologist

                    -Sage research and history

                    -sgreger1 to the Alexander Pope chair of social satire (pending the successful release of his long awaited masterpiece Goteborgs Rape of the Lock)


                    Nicely done fellas
                    When it's my time to go, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle did....... Not screaming in terror like his passengers

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