Originally posted by resnor
Northerner shipping directly from Sweden...ONLY...per email and check of the site
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yes, I just spoke with Louis and he is going to call my sales mgr to get his account set up. He's certainly interested in Jak's Thunder and Oden's. Thanks for the lead and make sure you go in there and buy this shit from him when he get's it ;-)
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Know how you feel. I'm going through High Point next week and plan on stopping in there. Let us know what they have in stock.Originally posted by LcarvoneAwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah!
Rick, are you updating/owning this website now? I saw this listing:
CHEAP SMOKE AND CONVENIENT STORE
144 WESTCHESTER DRIVE
HIGH POINT, NC 27262
If its legit that is within an half hour of me! Finally!
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Ordered from the new and improved Northerner a couple weeks back and I have to say I'm impressed. Shipping was in line with snuscentral and I had my snus in my hand in three days. Couple that with the updated catalog and I have to say I'm ecstatic. BTW Rick, I just bought up the last three cans of Flader at the High Point, NC shop that LCarvone was talking about. May wanna send them a fresh truckload.
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Will do, what was the name of that joint again?Originally posted by hokiehi82Ordered from the new and improved Northerner a couple weeks back and I have to say I'm impressed. Shipping was in line with snuscentral and I had my snus in my hand in three days. Couple that with the updated catalog and I have to say I'm ecstatic. BTW Rick, I just bought up the last three cans of Flader at the High Point, NC shop that LCarvone was talking about. May wanna send them a fresh truckload.
EDIT: Nevermind, found it
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[QUOTE=hokiehi82;520305 BTW Rick, I just bought up the last three cans of Flader at the High Point, NC shop that LCarvone was talking about. May wanna send them a fresh truckload.[/QUOTE]
AHHH!!! I have been so busy I haven't had a chance to get down there yet...good to know they seem to be doing some business which I imagine helps keep them as sources.
Rick...is there a standard set so to speak that a store is stocked with upon being added to the distribution or is it unique to the retailer?
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No, I don't force them to carry everything. They can carry any of these:Originally posted by LcarvoneAHHH!!! I have been so busy I haven't had a chance to get down there yet...good to know they seem to be doing some business which I imagine helps keep them as sources.
Rick...is there a standard set so to speak that a store is stocked with upon being added to the distribution or is it unique to the retailer?
Thunder Frosted Portion/Los
Thunder Wintergreen
Thunder Original Portion/Los
Thunder Coola
Offroad Original Portion/Los
Offroad Frosted Portion/Los
Oden's Extreme Portion/Los
Jak's Mint Strong
Jak's Wintergreen Strong
Jak's Classic Strong
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Originally posted by rickcharles606No, I don't force them to carry everything. They can carry any of these:
Thunder Frosted Portion/Los
Thunder Wintergreen
Thunder Original Portion/Los
Thunder Coola
Offroad Original Portion/Los
Offroad Frosted Portion/Los
Oden's Extreme Portion/Los
Jak's Mint Strong
Jak's Wintergreen Strong
Jak's Classic Strong
I think I would like to try at least one of each.
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Well, when deciding what to carry in the US, we have to consider what will sell and what won't sell. there are tons of snus I could carry, however, if the volumes aren't there, then I end up with a shit ton of product in my warehouse...getting old. Can't have that, so I have to stick with the winners, so to speak. Now, that being said...we are expanding our offerings, but slowly. For example, I'm planning on carrying more of the Oden's line and more of the Thunder line. The biggest consideration is the FDA though. Many of the cool new flavors have to get FDA approval before they can be sold through brick and mortar in the US...no way around it. It's the law of the land....for now.Originally posted by resnorWhy only those few types?
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workin' on it, Brother. It's that pesky FDA issue we discussed earlier that's keeping it out of our hands :-)Originally posted by hokiehi82How about Odens cold? Now that would be worth a two hour drive to High Point.
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Okay, this is a subject that many people probably don't really understand, but I'll explain. Yes, Northerner imported to the US and sold to brick and mortar shops. I got them licensed in almost every state to do so, it was a pain in the ass, lol. We quickly learned that Northerner was a better webshop than distributor, and ended up working with a "real" distributor to get snus to brick and mortar shops nationwide. Eventually, we just gave that exclusive distribution to the "real" distributor and I went to work for the distributor. Now, with the the distributor, I'm expanding the distribution even further...which is a good thing.Originally posted by resnorHow does Northerner sell a bunch of stuff to U.S.? I thought they went by FDA approval? Like Jaks melon, for example...
All that being said, The PACT act requires delivery sellers to collect the federal, state and local taxes PRIOR to delivery to a consumer. This is the real reason Northerner got licensed...they wanted to be operating legally in the US 100%, no gray areas. Now, there are webshop owners that argue the US cannot force foreign companies to do this. I tend to agree, but if you ask the FDA or one of the state regulatory bozos..they'll say if they aren't collecting the taxes, they're breaking the law. Truth is, they aren't or cannot enforce it as well against a webshop. So, the webshops have more flexibility to sell all the new flavors and brands without regard to FDA approval.
Now, what the FDA is good at these days, is regulating individual tobacco shops and distributors located here in the US. So, we have to adhere to every letter of the law, we cannot sell products that haven't yet gotten "full" FDA approval. Like, Oden's Cold, Jak's melon and Thunder Cool Mint...there's a HUGE list of products I'd love to offer, but can't right now. The manufacturers of these products, FULLY understand this, and we've discussed it at length. We're in the infancy of snus in the US, so be patient...all things will get better for snus users here, and hopefully everywhere.
So, in a nutshell...selling a product not yet approved by the FDA is easier to do via a webshop to a consumer than from a distributor to a brick and mortar retailer. The fines are ridiculous and I won't open my company or any of the manufacturers up to that type of liability. The web shops can do what they want, and I wish them well. F-the man...that's what I say.
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